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Steel 1945-S Wheat? Not Magnetic. What Is It

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Any idea what this this....seems to be the actual composition of the cent.not. a coating or ect.

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 Posted 01/20/2015  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All the cents from 1944 to 1945 were actually more brass than bronze so they sometimes they look a little different than bronze cents. They were actually made out of spent shell casings from the war. Only the 1943 cents were magnetic due to the fact that they were zinc coated steel. Maybe you have a brass cent that has corroded to look like steel or you have a coin that has been altered.
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 Posted 01/20/2015  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JerryKnightTwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked it over an I'm by no means an expert . But looks legit to me . Just seems to have lost its coppery coloring ...also weren't the casings made of brass .. ...I'm by no means a brass expert either. Haha ....but doesn't look like brass ....does it?
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 Posted 01/20/2015  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As noted, perhaps altered - in the high school science lab.
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Yes perhaps. I got it in a old bucket from an old collector...he hadn't looked through the bucket yet . And had been on the shelf since 1992. . Said he had them for a long while is how he put it ..found a 11s 24d & 22d in same bucket . Guess I was thinking genuine by association......or maybe it is authentic....let's say it is ..."what could it be"?
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Or for sake of discussion let's say its fake or altered...why would this be done ... an altered 45s ...? But then again Iguess why not ......that sometimes is reason enough
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Some really nice LWCs in the bucket!! I don't know why a 45S - maybe a SoCal high school lab? I've seen a few LWCs from the 40s and 50s with a grayish anodic coating. Maybe they were shiny once but dulled over the years. I see bared copper on the rims and high points so I know they are copper underneath. Copper is a great conductor so they were commonly dipped in various solutions in science classrooms: a DC battery, a nail, copper wire and a beaker of nickel? Clip the cent to with an alligator and dip. A few seconds later, a 'silver' penny.

To your point - some coils of material (copper, etc) are better than others. A coil to one or the other end of the spectrum will have a different look and perform differently in the tooling. It could be that your specimen is of the varied material (recycled war material) and will look and age differently. Set it aside as an example in your collection. Low investment in creating your library of specimens.
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 Posted 01/20/2015  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JerryKnightTwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great idea ...I'll do that..and thanks ..yes nice bucket...most of all cents from 1910 - 58 in that bucket .. p,d,s. No joke .think I was missing around 18 coins. Or maybe 22 something like that. Couldn't believe it ....that's how I got introduced to collecting....l
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Beginner's luck!! Glad you got the break early, but it might make you think things will come easy. I got back into collecting a little over a year ago - I was surprised at how many semi-key LWCs I snagged from my paper route money and CRH events with my brother as kids. I don't nearly see the nice mix relative to these experiences nearly 40 years ago.
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Yes . I soon there after realized how lucky I had gotten ..10000's of wheats later and no sign of that quality.....and I sold off the rest ...grabbed the 2 best of each year/mint mark ....but so many duplicates and nice shape too .. wish I knew then.......what I know now ....story of my young collecting life..
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If only we knew Jerry. If only we knew.
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Its things like that ...that make a young collectors like myself ....."LEARN FAST" !
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