Coin Care Product Feedback Please

NO !! the only stuff ill ever use is acetone and Verdi-care.

Those are the people who do MS70 Cleaner as well. Definitely worth researching; I'll bet the label will give you an idea where to find an MSDS which is vital to determining if the product meets numismatic Kosher.

One of the smaller coin shops in my area uses this on pretty much all of their wheats they get in.

It makes copper look "oily" and I personally hate it.




Indeed the only way to go.

Compare the 2 methods side by side and it's a noticeable difference and an easy call.

MSDS, note it's a .pdf download link:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...0mqUdYSg4DLQ

Looks similar to MS70 in that it's essentially hydrocarbons and limonene. BadThad did a comparison test between it and Verdicare a few years back, and found it fairly benign but it leaves a (deliberate) oily protective coating on the coin.

One, when I read E-Z-Est, I immediately locked in on the EZE part aka Ezekial Elliot of the national champion Ohio State Buckeyes.

Two, kind of odd that the coin cleaner bottle can say harmful / fatal if swallowed, yet not mention on the bottle what that specific hazard is.

Three good call on the MSDS. You can keep some things like formulation confidential, but you must disclose the known hazards. I always wonder why the fracking opponents that complain about secret fracking fluid cocktails just don't check the MSDS and be done with it. Almost like they don't want an answer or something.

As someone who derives all his income from the petrochemical industry and honestly believes the science behind it, it is difficult in hindsight to say that fracking and the keystone pipeline are worthwhile at this point in time.

As a coin collector wanting to loosely tie this off topic remotely back to the realm of coins, this is what happens when a society debases its money. The near zero percent financing for corporations has funded malinvestment. Much of this malinvestment has gone into energy / petrochemicals. New fracking will not be economical any time soon. The pipeline really isn't needed anymore. Too late to mean much of anything now other than a political football to be spiked.


Historically one the reasons we got neat new coins was because the government / king was not a competent manager and needed to debase the money to pay for his / her incompetence. If it wasn't that, they just wanted their image on the money. Most tyrants have big egos like that.

I find it interesting that the founding fathers of this nation made the debasement of our gold and silver currency absolutely punishable by death, despite being great defenders of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Equally interesting that Jesus used violence against these same money changers. To me, the Federal Reserve Note is not the US Dollar. Our money was literally changed and the arc of our great nation was permanently lowered as a result.


Gresham's Law (debased or bad money drives good money out of circulation) is the reason coin collecting started in the first place.


I understand people grade coins their own way, and generally I like the ANA book on grading. I do disagree with the prime focal areas though. The prime focal area on any coin to me is the word Liberty. I hope to someday soon see the return of Lady Liberty to all our coinage and society in general.

The op failed to mention which particular product caused this "cloud".

It's always helpful to place a 'quote' as above especially when more than one product is under discussion in the same thread...

Please clarify which one it is.

Also, irrespective of the particular oil-like product activity in use would not a post acetone rinse applied via a cotton swap poking/30 degree twist take care of any non-polar hydrocarbon-like substance like oil negating the concern for this aforementioned pre-flip-insertion issue?

Acetone ideally possesses both polar and non-polar components in the possible unlikely event the conservation oil in question embodies multiple minute elements like lubricants and fuel oil both allegedly present in refined petroleum-like compounds.

For those wondering about the perceived non-pertinence of those petroleum-like substances that I refer to, this concern may nonetheless still be of interest to some since the matter of flash points never arose in this discussion.

Instead of purchasing STUFF to clean coins, why not use that money to just buy coins?