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United States
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I posted a 1911 cent in the grading section.
When I purchased it, I did so with the photos I provided on the grading page.
Also when I posted, I had not received the coin yet but I was very excited to show it off and get every ones opinion.
Just arrived in the mail and took it out of the package.
The Rev is the correct coin, and I thought for a second that the picture of the Obv was not my coin.
Under the loop it is the correct coin.
Now my issue with the coin is that is does not exhibit that deep of a strike as shown in the image.
While I would say it is in MS something condition, I can't say it's an early die strike.
I took some photos of it, and I was able to replicate pretty close the exact image as I had posted from the seller.
With proper light angle, you can create lots of depth that does not really exist.
I like coins with naked eye appeal.
This coin is good, don't get me wrong, but I was expecting more depth with the naked eye.
So with this coin I lost some pride and gained some experience.
Lesson learned...buy coins you can handle because photo trickery can bite you in the butt.
I'll post my photos here in a bit to compare.
Thanks
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Online purchases are always a dice-toss. Nothing compares to having a coin in-hand. Looking forward to your images One50.
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Top photo is the seller Bottom photo is mine It's a pretty close match The point is I created something out of nothing. Both these photos show depth that doesn't really exist. Angles light etc. Please don't judge my photo to hard, it's the first coin I have ever photoed. More practice will be had.   Edited by One50
01/24/2015 1:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nothing to be ashamed about. Looks like a good strike in both photographs. Looks like a great coin.
Edited by CopperCastle
01/24/2015 1:59 pm
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Not to confuse anyone. Just to reiterate above. Top photo is sellers Bottom photo is mine duplicating sellers depth via "trickery" Below here is a closer representation of what I see with the naked eye and my loop. This photo was taken while in the flip. But it's as close as I can get to the actual feel for the coin. It's simply lost all of it's depth and is a "typical" cent. I look at this as a small case study   |
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Pillar of the Community
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I question whether it's the same coin. Think about returning it. On second thought I think it is the same coin. I'd return it anyway.
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Pillar of the Community
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It's clearly the same coin. I don't think the seller's photo is misleading either; it's a nice and honest photo that highlights some minor flaws (spots and things) that are harder to see in your other photos.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Edited by BadThad
01/24/2015 4:16 pm
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So with this coin I lost some pride and gained some experience. The experience is invaluable. I hope one did not pay TOO much for the coin. |
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Well, the detail shown in the seller's images is there. That's how the camera can depict it....
If you look at it under light and optics optimized for your specific personal eyes, you'll see that detail too. It's the blessing and the curse of digital photography, the emphasis it gives details.
It's still an unbelievable strike.
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with SsuperDdave.
It's not really "trick" photography.
It's just a photograph with unusual lighting and contrast emphasis.
If the seller had added details that are not actually on the coin, that would be a problem, but with this, (just an example) you could display it under a lamp at a certain angle, so that all that sharpness of strike is always visible.
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01/25/2015 10:03 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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All are exactly why I only purchase coins at coin shows. If I can't see exactly what I'm buying, I wouldn't buy it.
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An example of why I greatly prefer buying coins in hand as opposed to the internet. Quote:
All are exactly why I only purchase coins at coin shows. Agreed with both.  |
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New Member
United States
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I think that is a great looking coin... Great buy!
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United States
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On second thought I think it is the same coin. I'd return it anyway On what grounds? The seller posted a clear good quality photo. Obviously the photo is repeatable, since the buyer did just that. There is no deception, no manipulation here. It's a nice coin, condition is as shown. Is the seller supposed to use crappy out-of-focus photos? I'd rather see this kind of sharp detailed photography than a fuzzy non-macro cheap cellphone pic any day. |
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United States
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So with my novice experience I must humbly apologize to the seller. I did keep the coin, I did not leave A++ fantastic review for him, but it was not negative either. I keep this coin on my desk and look at it every night to fully understand what makes an early LWC and good strike. My disappointment stemmed from the fact that my naked eye does not see that detail upon which I was expecting to get when purchasing this coin. I fully expected this piece to look like the picture with no loupe and no fancy lights. New guy on the block here now understands a few more things about coinage and collecting. That's why I chose CCF as my home, because you all have wonderful insight Thanks |
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