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1972-D Cent Doubling? (Updated Photos)

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 Posted 09/22/2007  01:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
is this anything? This is the first die break I have found. I put some cents away 30 + years age, and since I have the collecting
bug again, I dug them out. I have 2 rolls of the 1972-D cents, I removed the first 8 or so and found this.
6 or so of the others looked like the photes on Coppercoins site (under 1972-D).

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More pictures of the others to follow
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09/23/2007 03:03 am
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Yes, It's a slight die crack.

I would be checking for any unusual die varieties since 1972 was a great year for them.

There are some doubled die varieties on '72D cents .

Bill
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09/22/2007 4:00 pm
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I don't see a die break (missing piece of the die) at all. I see a die crack.
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Isn't GOD doubled?
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I should have said die crack, Thanks coppercoins
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quote:
Isn't GOD doubled?

maybe a little Mechanical Doubling but I don't see any double die doubling there
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GOD looks doubled because of the lighting used to take the image - nothing more than that.
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I at first thought that the lighting was what I was seeing. But after taking another look, I retook the following pictures.
GOD looks doubled? CopperCoins?

Liberty is doubled, L (a Little) IBER (Can see very well) TY not as much.

I found 3 of these in the first roll, (one more to look through )
Any extra value for having a die crack and doubling?

There is a LOT of die polishing marks on these coins, I thing these were the last coins struck from this Obv. Die. there are examples in the roll of the Obv NEW looking with no marks, having the same weak REV. as ones with the heavy polish marks.

I also found 3 clashed dies (?) posting in a new thread.


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I still see doublibg in GOD and especially in LIBERTY, but again, I'm not an expert.
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I still don't see anything out of the ordiary. It looks like you have the typical 1972 cent with some of the re-etching/master die doubling that happened on over half of all 1972 cents. The N of IN should tell the story - if it appears that there's a thin N on top of the normal N, you have the master die doubling, and this is more common than coins without said doubling. No premium value at all on this.

Regarding the clash, no real value, possibly a little for the curiosity factor, but they are common and are not going to bring a premium from any experienced collector.

Regarding die scratches - they sometimes polished the dies before ever placing them into use. Just because you have polishing lines doesn't mean the die was old and ready to be retired.

Weak reverse, strong reverse, whatever you're talking about all have to do with striking pressure on that coin. The strength of the details on a particular coin is not a marker for comparing different coins to the same die.

You very likely have a roll that was struck with a number of different die pairs because there were 14 presses running at any single time, and the coins were mixed together before they were bagged. There's a decent possibility that you have at least ten different die pairs represented in a single original roll.
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Thanks for the second look CopperCoins,
I appreciate your time.

7070
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