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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thank you for the quick reply, but the links are sent to another coin: First off, welcome. I'm not understanding what you're saying here. Are the pictures you posted of the actual coin in your possession? Colligo ergo sum
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Nickel Guy:
Thankyou for the easy visual comparison, for all to see.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, this is a popular counterfeit. I bought some last year for $1.20 each. Here's one of mine:   You see how both of these coins have the same type of wear? It is almost exact. Mine just happens to be stamped with "COPY" on the back, but they make them without this mark too. Some manufacturers even offer the buyer the choice of whether or not they want their coins stamped this way. I'm sorry, but there is no way this coin has existed for generations. It is a modern forgery made within the last 10 years, and I think I'm being liberal with that estimate. Edited by Darth Morgan
01/26/2015 11:46 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Definite fake. It looks like your eagle's cloud went "poof"!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm not understanding what you're saying here. Are the pictures you posted of the actual coin in your possession? He was referring o the link that Fuzzy posed for comparison which went to a flowing hair half dollar. not a draped bust dollar. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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He was referring o the link that Fuzzy posed for comparison which went to a flowing hair half dollar. not a draped bust dollar. Alright, that makes sense. Colligo ergo sum
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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What is scary is how much better the counterfeits have become in the last decade. I agree with the crowd, that this coin has been made within the last 10 years. Even if it was older, this particular coin, being so rare, is one that has been counterfeited since the 1800s. Today, not only do the rare coins get counterfeited, but the relatively common ones are counterfeited as well! You can buy COMPLETE sets of almost any series of US coin from China. And yes, when you order your coin/set, they ask you if you want them marked as copies or not. They don't care one way or the other. I saw one seller that was displaying their fake coin sets in albums! Another thing that is troublesome... When the owner of a counterfeit coin, such as the OP, is told (and shown with pictures), that their coin is fake, and yet they still continue to post comments that are in denial that the coin is fake. This poster is the same... they have all but said outright that they don't believe the overwhelming proof provided to them.  Edited by ratio411
01/27/2015 7:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was reading some time ago that gold plating was invented in Pesia around 500A.D. to..... you guessed it. Counterfeit coins. The Greeks and Roman's bemoaned the counterfeit coins that circulated 2000 years ago. I guess it never ends.  Counterfeiting techniques just keep getting better. Counterfeiting circulating coins isn't profitable any more so now the crooks counterfeit collector coins. I have even seen fake dollar coins like the poster has marketed as "tribute coins". Edited by Celticsoul
01/27/2015 9:27 pm
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 United States
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That would have been an instant death sentence in ancient Rome if that was exposed.
Many AE Follis coins were plated in this matter.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This type of counterfeit is called the "vampire" counterfeit due to the two indentations on Liberty's neck, right underneath her jawline. It is evident of your coin and on Darth Morgan's coin. Most definitely a fake. When it was made, I don't know. Does anyone know when counterfeits of this die transfer first came out of China?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here is the closeup of the indentations on a different coin.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Your coin is fake and a fairly recent one at that.
Somehow Grandpa must have slipped this one in the collection around 2005.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, it is a violation of ebay policy to sell replicas and not specify in the ad that it is that. The seller would have to provide a return shipping label if they wanted the coin back and a refund would be issued. Edited by buddy16cat
01/27/2015 11:31 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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More 1795's. . . . I can only imagine what kinds of bids these coins would get on ebay if they were photographed under low light and at a weird angle- just enough to keep from getting a really good look. Even the more obvious fakes get bid up ridiculously. I haven't seen counterfeits with this much "patina" on them before. The "COPY" stamp is absent.    Inscriptions are present of the edges:    These counterfeit coins have improved much since the first ones I bought in 2012. I worry more about the fake Morgan dollars out there since the average collector will probably never look into buying one of these early dollars. That's my line of thinking anyway. Edited by Darth Morgan
01/28/2015 12:33 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Fakes of early U.S. silver dollars were made in the U.S., long before the Chinese came onto the scene.
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