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Counterfeiters Have Reached A Whole New Level

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I just read a post in the ebay community where someone bought small silver bars from a seller in California. they arrived from China. The buyer was suspicious and had them tested. Silver plated aluminum filled with lead. If I'm not mistaken, this used to only be practical with larger bars. Now if they can do small bars, how soon will they figure it out for coins, if they aren't already.

I don't know the exact size yet, but the seller mostly has 10g to 1 oz bars.
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Bullion has been counterfeited from 1 gram up to 10 oz+ bars. Tungsten core is the construction of choice for gold (almost identical density and specific gravity), and copper or aluminum-lead core is the choice for silver (similar diamagnetic properties).
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So this is nothing new? 1 gram? Seems like a lot of work for something with almost no value. I guess nothing is safe any more. they should just start making lead bars. that would be hard to counterfeit.
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Crooks will try anything to make a buck. Or a Yuan.
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It wasn't until the commodities boom of 2009 that it was profitable, and even now they've already made their investment in equipment back, so they make up for narrower margins with volume.
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It wasn't until the commodities boom of 2009 that it was profitable, and even now they've already made their investment in equipment back, so they make up for narrower margins with volume.
So basically as silver drops, they are putting in almost as much expense as a real product, but putting out items with no value what so ever.

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Once it gets to a certain point, aye, that'll be what happens.

Sadly, since they've already invested in the equipment and the infrastructure, that will be for a while off yet. We'd have to see silver much lower.

And then they'd likely move much harder towards higher quality fake rarities.
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