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1875-S $20 Liberty Looks Funny! Is It Fake

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I have an opportunity to purchase an 1875-S $20 Liberty Coin but the asking price is $400. The coin has flaws but it seems like it can't be true for that price.

This coin weighs 33.43 grams, and if I just buy it for melt, the price of gold for it would be something like $1,222.83 give or take a few.

Is this a bad deal? Or seem fishy?

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1875-S-$20-Liberty-Looks-Funny!-Is-It-Fake

1875-S-$20-Liberty-Looks-Funny!-Is-It-Fake
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 Posted 02/11/2015  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would be VERY skeptical if someone is selling you this coin at that price. Especially if it isn't in a TPG holder. If you want to go through with the deal, ask the seller if he would be willing to submit it for grading. If it real, then offer to pay him the amount he wants, plus the grading fee.
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 Posted 02/11/2015  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StrikeZone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the discription "USA Twenty D. Gold Coin 1875 KDNS"

What does KDNS mean?
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I know nothing about gold, but that coin just looks real to me. Lots of nice die cracks on the reverse. Somebody please save me from myself.
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Wait a minute...$400 for a coin that MELTS at $1180 (current price)? Yeah, I'd say either a) uninformed at the current price of gold; or, b) fake and trying to scam you.
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I wouldn't buy unslabbed gold with YOUR money...let alone mine.

That being said, I don't see anything screaming "fake" based purely off of your image.
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The pictured coin is genuine. If it's being offered at $400 then make sure it's a safe transaction, very safe.
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I wouldn't buy unslabbed gold with YOUR money...let alone mine.


Oh I don't know,I've been told I'm generous with other people's money.
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Just make sure you record the coin coming out of the package. Could be bait and switch.
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Does it contain milk chocolate or dark chocolate?
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Im staying away from that one....I just did an Internet serch for "USA Twenty D. Gold Coin 1875 KDNS"

Here is the exact same coin with winning bid of $2,000 from 26 Dec 2014.

This is wrong....it is clearly a fake

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-Twenty-...271711058931
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It's not just the same coin, it's the same pictures.
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Well would you look at that. A genuinely damning observation.

My money is on a bait and switch at this point.

Those pictures as the bait, and something like this as the switch: http://www.theblackcabinet.org/coun...1885cc-0001/

Run -- do not walk -- away from this.
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If I was offered this coin at that price and I did not know anything about gold coins I would not even think about buying it as I know if it were genuine it is worth multiples of his asking price simply because my inclination would be it is either a counterfeit or a stolen coin and I would not risk getting involved in what that might lead to.
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Why would someone give away something intrinsically worth $1200 in precious metal for $400? It's like saying...here's a $20 bill, please give me $7 for it.
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LOL:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Gold-Pre193...md=1&_ipg=50

Look at all the suckers this seller, kingstongalleries, is ripping. He's selling the same coin every other day.
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