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 Posted 02/13/2015  02:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jmbankcoin123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm wondering what causes all the various discoloration I come across, the half dollar pictures is solid black on both sides. On the pictures of the Alaska state coin it looks like a letter g or #9 or 6 maybe? And then the Kennedy Bicentennial half looks so crazy to me. Any info would be much appreciated

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 Posted 02/13/2015  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because these are a mix of copper and nickel (cupronickel) sometimes the mix is off, and you get discolouration, similar to a "woody" cent.

The all black one is the most extreme, and they call these blackies.
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 Posted 02/13/2015  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connicoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finally, now I know where the few "Black" pennies come from. I filled one of my Lincoln sets with just black and red...my old high school colors. And to Coin Community ! You will learn a lot here at the forum.
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 Posted 02/13/2015  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The black one looks like it was in a fire,maybe a house fire. The rest look like some sort of acidic contact.I don't see any of them as a "mix" problem.
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 Posted 02/13/2015  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kurdlezuit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The jfk, third from bottom of all pics, looks interesting? Pictures are hard to tell if it has grime on it or metal? Or possibly just scratches ( PMD)
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02/13/2015 06:56 am
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 Posted 02/13/2015  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So many things can alter coins. Even shampoo can ruin the surface of a coin. So the coins shown are probably best spent as they are not collectables anymore. They can be replaced with better ones for little cost. Even finger prints can ruin copper coins. The last one looks like something is on the coin. So handling coins correctly, storing them correctly can save/ruin a coins collectable state.
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The Kennedy on the bottom is crazy. I don't think there is anything on it. It literally has chunks missing strange lines chips etc. And on obverse side the surface is not smooth at all I'll create another post with better pictures
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 Posted 02/13/2015  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The black kennedy looks like a fire or a dug coin. I seen them super black like that doffing them.
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Your pics aren't really clear enough for me to say for sure, but that Kennedy that is so beat-up looks like it spent some time in a parking lot, getting dragged around, plowed, etc.
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The 'woodiness' in bronze coins is caused by imperfect mixing of the metals, which is then striated when the coining strip is rolled to thickness.

Blotchiness with the coins pictures is perhaps caused by a differential variation in whatever has been in contact with the coin. In almost all cases, some moisture has been involved.

As already indicated, imperfect mixing of the alloy metals could have also contributed to what you see here.

Any coin can be blackened with excessive heat. Try it for yourself in the kitchen; just be careful not to burn your fingers!
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02/13/2015 9:44 pm
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 Posted 02/13/2015  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tweak800 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I want to see that 3rd one up close good pictures. All angles lol seriously I have posted things and then had them looked at by coin shops just had one looked at by weaker that was a double and no one on here thought it was. Finally got it attributed so you never know man pictures are tough to tell but I really want to see better pics of that 3rd coin
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 Posted 02/13/2015  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPC24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bertensgrad is right. The solid black coins are probably metal detector finds. Clad coins usually turn red and/or black the longer they stay buried.
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I will post better pics I'm new at this and its more difficult than I thought lol stand-by
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