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1798 Bust Dollar

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A friend of mine in the UK recently found this Bust Dollar in a box of European coins at an auction.

I advised him to send it to PCGS or NGC but thought I would post here first to see if people think it's the real deal. I personally see no obvious issues but I am by no means an expert.

The weight and dimensions check out properly.

If he does submit it, what would be the best way? He's based in the United Kingdom and I doubt would trust anybody to submit the coin for him (that includes myself as we have never actually met in person).

Thanks in advance!

1798-Bust-Dollar

1798-Bust-Dollar

and the edge:

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1798-Bust-Dollar

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It's looking good to me. I can't say genuine or fake with any certainty as there are many high-quality fakes out there, but the diagnostics for those fakes are not there. Wait for other experts to chime in.

Congrats on your friend's find!
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What is that under Liberty's chin?
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It's a dent of some sort.
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I like what I am seeing, it would be best for your friend and the coin if he sent it to a certificate n company that conserves coins as well since there's some green residue on it.
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Some more images:

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1798-Bust-Dollar

I can't even bring myself to say what he paid... Let's just say Grant's face would have brought change...
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I am not seeing anything out of the ordinary and the edge lettering looks good.
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Certainly matches the B-31/BB-115 variety.
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Looks fine to me.
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The only thing that looks odd to me is that the planchet appears out of round. Edge bumps?

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that's just caused by the striking process, due to not being struck with a collar the denticles are un even and the coin can appear slightly out of round and varry slightly in size from coin to coin.
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Looks like a VF+ original coin to my eye.
I think someone made a REALLY lucky score on that one.
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It appears genuine or is a good quality fake. I do not like the color or the cleaning however. If it is genuine it is worth far less than a problem-free VF example.
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Quote:
Let's just say Grant's face would have brought change...


Am I interpreting this as he would receive change from paying with a $50.00 bill?

Implying that your friend paid less than $50.00 dollars for it?
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Quote:
Implying that your friend paid less than $50.00 dollars for it?


Correct. It was purchased in a tin of European coins offered as "various European Crowns" for about 50 dollars. The European coins were of similar vintage and all checked out as authentic.
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Hi all! I've had a chance to see this coin in person and take better photos. Please see thread on the Classic Coins Grading Forum here:

https://goccf.com/t/198529

Thanks :)
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