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1859 Large Cent 9 Over 6 Variety- 2 Versions?

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I recall someone mentioned there are 2 versions of the 9 over 6 punch in the 1859.
(i have the Haxby rev I7 )
Anyone know of another less published version?
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I recall someone mentioned there are 2 versions of the 9 over 6 punch in the 1859.
(i have the Haxby rev I7 )



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1859-Large-Cent-9-Over-6-Variety--2-Versions?

1859-Large-Cent-9-Over-6-Variety--2-Versions?

1859-Large-Cent-9-Over-6-Variety--2-Versions?

Pc59-45a1 rev I7. Obv 45a. Almost EF
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That close up of the 9/6 is awesome as you can see the detail.

PS I see that you have 300 too many coins so shall I give you my address so you can get rid of them
Cheers Don

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Thanks for the pics..

Great details in that 9 over Inv 9..

Very tough to find and that is the tougher of the 2 varieties out there,.. and a very..very high grade also..
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would it be easy to confuse this with 9/8's ?

or are there other clear markers to set them apart ?
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Open vine at leaf 2
Die crack at base of leaf 12
Wide 9/8 is a very broad digit
This clearly is a narrow 9
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Next to impossible to make that W9 over 8 mistake..the inner loop is low in this very tough variety..

The inner loop speaks for itself...just like the 1859 DP 9..#5 has a loop much higher up in that 9 loop.

The holder on the one that I bought had it labeled incorrectly as an 1859 DP 9..#5.

My 9 over Inv 9 pics are in the CCF Canadian grading forum.. on the first page..

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myskchem pointed out 2 of the markers other than the 9 itself, but there are others. For type I, there is a triple/quad repunch visible in the notch of the C in Canada, slight R/P of the T in Gratia R stem, D/C on upper right serif on N in Canada and bottom left The type 1 has to have the D/C at 12. The type 2 has the same specific abrupt vine break at 2, but has no D/C at 12 and a nicely offset 5/5.

The 9/8's can't be confused with any regular 1859, since the font of the 9 was a larger and fatter punch to obliterate or mostly hide the underlying 8 in the working die. The font used for the 9 in the 9/8's was taller, rounder and wider.
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