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Edited by Nelrak
10/10/2007 10:18 am
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I don't know about the 1943 but looks like a perfect way to ruin a copper cent if it was in fact a copper 1943 cent, the 1964 looks very interesting and may in fact be a brockage struck coin, is that image on the reverse of lincoln and the letters raised or incuse?(just can't tell too sure from the photos to say 100% positive), the 58 FE looks like it may be some sort of post mint damage to me but again since I don't collect cents at all I could be totally wrong on this one too
Edited by Bryan1315
10/09/2007 07:21 am
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does the 43 cent stick to a magnet? I would guess it does. If it does, someone damaged the coin and then re-plated it with copper. My dad was a lithographer and he used a chemical that would plate steel with copper by merely dipping the steel in the solution. On this coins obverse, it appears that the zinc is showing under whatever was used to plate it. The reverse would easily pick up copper as the center of the coin would be steel.
Check it with a magnet.
The middle coin is an out of the Mint manufactured "squeeze job" type of thing. If it were a brockage, the reverse details would have been obliterated.
The 1858 FE cent looks to be a coin that was struck on a planchet that was flawed.
Thanks,
Bill
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Thanks Bill. I checked the 1943 with 4 different magnets (of various strengths) around the house and it didn't stick to any of them...just slid right off.
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Ok, lets see a real good closeup of the date to see if it was altered. I have some pretty good looking ones that started out as 1948 dated cents. Always an off chance that you have a real one that has been horribly damaged. Lets try to see the date a little better.
Thanks,
Bill
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your 64 is a smash job. you can tell by looking at it. when you have to read it in a mirror then it is an altered coin. on you 43 I think I see the steal also but it could be one that has been played with and altered or a button of some sort. I can see no other reason the destroy the reverse other than it was too apparent that it wasn't what they wanted it to look like. I vote Garage job but couldn't say how or why. I am not into flying eagles so I never studied them so have nothing for you on it
Gary
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OK I'll try to get a good date shot. I am not sure if it is real or not. I'll put it next to a real steel 43 plain for comparison as well.
But either way, they are pretty cool for a $1 for both.
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That 1943 is an obvious cast counterfeit. It's not a coin at all. The pits give it away if the reverse never having been there doesn't.
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Thanks Chuck. I was kind of thinking that myself when I started looking close at the date. Oh well it was an exciting investigation, just the same. With Benji finding a 1799 Bust Dollar in a junk box for $5 about 2 months ago, it was worth a chance.
Thanks to all for the time reviewing my Snipe Hunt!
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I'm curious in reply by coppercoins
I know a little about molds and tool and die making
so I can understand about the pits. But the obv. still looks
pretty good to me. The rev. looks copper anyway so either it was built up over the original or a cluster you know what.
Isn't it true that the 43 (copper) was really made of bronze ?
Was the coin weighed ? Measured ?
Drill for a core sample :)
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I remember as a kid taking tin foil and pressing it on a coin and making a miniature mold. Then filling it with Elmer's glue and making a glue coin. Never figured out how to make obverse and reverses on them, just one side kind of like the copper pour may have been casted. Just obverse. Innocent fun as a kid as I never tried to spend them. They were too obvious. LOL
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He also gave me the 1964 pictured below. He had a 1958 Small Date FE that appears to have a planchet error.
Posted 10/09/2007 10:09 pm
