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Blank Copper Planchet-Reeded?

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I recently found this blank copper planchet that has full reeding along the entire length of the edge. It weighs 6.47 grams, is the same size as a U.S. quarter and is nonmetallic. This blank has got me perplexed!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the reading of a coin applied by the collar during the striking process?

I understand how the coin blanks go through the upsetting mill to form their plain, yet raised rim before being struck, but I've never heard of a reeded upsetting mill?!?!

I would love to hear the community's thoughts on this one!

Thanks!




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 Posted 03/05/2015  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps it is not a raised rim coin planchet, and is just a serrated rim blank, not necessarily for a coin.
Silver planchets before striking were usually raised rim, milled edge, with the collar imparting the edge milling during the striking process.

The edge reeding in this case looks like it has been rolled in, not milled.
I am at a loss to consider for what purpose it may have been made.
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 Posted 03/05/2015  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few more pics that show:

1) the diameter of the reeded planchet

2) a comparison of the reeding between four quarters

3) the weight of the Planchet in grams

4) evidence of an upset rim in addition to the reeding

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 Posted 03/05/2015  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add reupman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
we need an answer so when you get one please let us know!
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Could be just a token that slipped through the inspection of an arcade token etc. I don't thing you will be getting much more narrowed answer.
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 Posted 04/10/2015  03:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ha! If it has any relation to a genuine coin, as opposed to being an essay made by a forger for some purpose (such as testing his Castaing machine, which was used to roll in edge reeding before striking in collar became the fashion), then it's the Japanese 10 yen piece of 1951-58, notoriously capable of being used as a quarter slug. After 1958 the edge was plain rather than reeded.
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Hi, I have the same coin in this thread. Did anyone find out what it is?
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Looking at the comparison with the 4 quarters, the reeding is spaced a bit wider. There are about 10 grooves on your blank for every 11 on the real quarters. So, whatever it is, it does not have quarter reeding on it.
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I notice that the edge milling on the blank is slightly oblique ( /////// or \\\\\\\, leaning over).
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It is a quarter slug, nothing more in my opinion.
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Pic of the one I have.


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These turned up the Detroit area and I suppose other places in the country until the perpetrators were caught. These were made in Canada to be used in US venting machines. Around here I see them show up at our CONECA tables every so often in Michigan. Saw one there last year. At one time it seemed like every dealer that had a binder containing some "oddities" had one of these for sale. These go back at least as far as the mid 1980s.
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