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Despite the fact that the seller isn't trying to pass this off as the real deal, such still shouldn't be on ebay.

See: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plated-Silv...t_295wt_1153
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 Posted 03/09/2015  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gshobar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be curious to see the weight difference. It probably has a different ring to it too.
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Key word in the listing: China
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 Posted 03/10/2015  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It doesn't matter how the seller describes the item...it is a copy of a US coin and it is not marked "copy".

Prohibited item and it was reported..
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 Posted 03/10/2015  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a Teng Da 2013 ASE proof. These were the same manufacturers that had some pass as genuine in Canada and NYC a little while back.

@gshobar - Their diameter and weight is to spec (although they're a little thick) and they're thick-silver-plated copper so the ring is pretty convincing.
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That's... Disturbing. Sad to think that there have probably already been some bought by this guy, but the new sellers will probably not be so honest. That's the trouble with ebay...
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ebay is just a tool for the seller...it is not "an ebay problem" but a seller problem.

You can find the same coins at flea markets etc...
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 Posted 03/10/2015  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Ebay is just a tool for the seller...it is not "an ebay problem" but a seller problem.


ebay serves as a conduit whereby such items achieve far easier and wider international distribution than was ever before possible. If ebay takes the attitude that they don't care what their sellers put on the market so long as they get their cut, then they're complicit and have become a part of the problem.
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If ebay takes the attitude that they don't care what their sellers put on the market so long as they get their cut, then they're complicit and have become a part of the problem.


I can't argue with that....especially since I reported the item as an unmarked fake and they still have it up for sale.

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No, it's an ebay problem. They dissolved their Counterfeit Detection community group and removed their counterfeit specialists on staff.

They simply don't care anymore.

And that violates the "known or should have known" clause of the HPA/CCPA.
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The one thing that I have like with ebay is that if the coin arrives and is fake, cleaned, etc, then they will let you use the buyer protection. The majority of the time you end up getting it for free if there really is something wrong with it.

Now, that's only IF you identify it as a fake in time...
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Keep on reporting this stuff, guys. You're building the legal case against ebay with their own channels of communication. They'll be providing the evidence which convicts them, with these filed reports that prevent them from saying they didn't know.
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True, the new version of the hobby protection act makes anyone who knowingly assists in the sale of fakes liable as well. So the record of the reports can be used as evidence that they were informed and were complicit in the violation.
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How can they not see this coming? Their legal team must think they know something that we do not.
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Reported. ebay guidelines clearly state plated buillion as a prohibited item.
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