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So today a customer paid with two $1 coins. For the heck of it I bought the two coins from my till. Looking at them I can see why I don't use them. They just don't look like coins with having NO DATE or MINT MARK on the obverse. Many of you already know my disdain for these monstrosities with edge lettering. I really hate the use of $1 instead of ONE DOLLAR. I don't like the font on these coins....errr chuckie cheese tokens.
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I really hate the use of $1 instead of ONE DOLLAR. I don't like the font on these coins....errr chuckie cheese tokens.


I agree with these statements 100%!

I have said this before, but if these had been made into silver dollars for collectors only I would probably be collecting them today.
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 Posted 03/08/2015  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Geeeeeeeeee. Someone that doesn't just love those baby sized things. And here I thought everyone would be using them.
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The only reason I collect them is because they're part of the UNC and proof sets. I just can't bring myself to just spend them....
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The only reason I collect them is because they're part of the UNC and proof sets. I just can't bring myself to just spend them....


LOL I have been known to buy mint sets but since I bust 'em open I just spend the dollar coins from it. They are kinda included in the set and I have no desire for them. But I don't think I'm buying anymore mint sets until the number of coins in them become more reasonable.
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Geeeeeeeeee. Someone that doesn't just love those baby sized things. And here I thought everyone would be using them.


I'll use them but I'm not gonna collect them! :P
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I am glad everyone has a different opinion on what to collect.

Otherwise everyone would have the same coins .. be sort of
boring.

So just to be clear, you don't like small dollars.

You don't like new quarters, because they change the
design to often.

I might be wrong but it seems like you don't like silver
eagles ...because they are boring with the same design.

I think I missed reading, are there some coins you like?
I really am curious.

As far as my opinion, on small dollars, I am ok with them.
Because I like filling Dansco albums.

I do wish they were sold separate from the regular mint sets. So those who don't want to collect them are not
forced to buy them.

Seems like there has always been a division, on what people
like to collect. When I was young, wheat cents were good but
memorial cents...not so much.

With the switch from silver to clad, not many wanted to
collect clad. In my opinion, when the State Quarters came
out, collecting clad coins became much more popular. It was
at that time many collectors started putting together 32 -98
sets. Before 1999 Washington quarters were about as dead as
the Roosevelt dimes are today.

Of course ...everyone does have different opinions.
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I think they're okay for education. I do wish they were a bit more traditional with date and mintmark placement. Or, at the very least, make sure the edge lettering is easy to read like it is on the British 2 pound coins. The dollars barely circulate and a lot of them already have nearly unreadable edge lettering.

As far as the subject matter... Presidents are okay, but you get the feeling like they are getting more honor than deserved/intended by the Founding Fathers. What else do we have to be proud of as a nation besides Presidents?

A nice eagle representation on the reverse would be nice. None of our current circulating coins have Eagles on them anymore, and it was mandated by law at one point. I mean... look at Canada's coins and you know what their national symbols are, and the designs haven't changed really in almost 80 years. (The maple leaf was really unfortunate.)
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I do like small dollars a lot, just not in their current form. I thought the Sacs were awesome until the edge lettering appeared. Then I just lost interest in the series. I do think prez dollars are boring. There are better ways to learn about the presidents than seeing them on coins. Again with these, not only was the edge lettering a deal breaker, but also the use of $1. But good grief, the size of the mint and proof sets are ridiculous. Quite honestly, I don't see much offerings from the mint these days that interest me. In regards to the ASE, well it's not a bad design, but it had already been used from 1916-1947. I would have thought an original idea would have been better than rehashing an old design. But actually I'd rather see such designs on circulating coins rather than tired old presidents. For the coins I do like? I think Wheaties are interesting. I find Canadian coins most fascinating, namely their 50c coin, and Canadian coins in general. The idea of Kings and Queens on them is just awesome. Plus the depict a lot of national emblems and animals. If one wants real good US coin designs, one has to purchase expensive gold and platinum coins. Why aren't those types of designs on circulating coins?
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Why aren't those types of designs on circulating coins?


There just isn't room for them in our current coin "roster". Pennies, nickels, quarters have recently gone/are going through design changes. The dime is too small. The half... is the half. So dollars. The Presidents were likely just an excuse to get the dollar coins "going" again. Call a series of presidential portraits educational and that was probably the best bet at getting the bill passed. It was also an attempt at making them more collectible to the general public, just like the Statehood Quarters. A definitive series which can easily be completed by the public, garnering interest in the coin (and seigniorage for the Mint). A nice design, even a series of nice rotating designs, probably wouldn't have the same effect.

Now the Native American dollars, though not a set with a definite end like the Presidents, are generally very nice designs honoring a very deserving group of people. It's a shame these don't circulate.
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I spent some gold $$ and some clad Kennedy half $`s that I got from the bank and looked through. I found several of the lettered edge missing part of the motto or date.
I enjoy coins of every country, some more than others.

The edge lettering is the dumbest thing Ive seen. Especially when its so small.
Bring the date back to the obverse.

Please!! I need a glass to read most of them my eyes are not that good any more
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Agreed. Edge date and MM are silly and difficult to deal with.
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I really hate the use of $1 instead of ONE DOLLAR.

I concur; however, I have another sub-issue with regard to the denomination: the dollar sign on the Native American dollar series has been **the same** every year **except** 2013. WHY?!?
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I do wish they were sold separate from the regular mint sets. So those who don't want to collect them are not
forced to buy them.

By that logic the proof and mint sets should be done away with entirely and all the coins just sold separately because there will always be coins in the set that people don't want to collect and shouldn't be forced to buy.


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Or, at the very least, make sure the edge lettering is easy to read like it is on the British 2 pound coins.

Possibly a little easier to do the lettering on the pounds because they are thicker. They probably also impress the lettering into the heavier because on the pounds they are lettered first and then struck. The lettering isn't being impressed into a work hardened coin, ad probably impressed deeper to insure it will still be readable after being forced into the reeded collar.


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A nice eagle representation on the reverse would be nice. None of our current circulating coins have Eagles on them anymore, and it was mandated by law at one point.

Believe it or not it is STILL mandated by law that the eagle appear on all the coin denominations greater than the dime. but that law can be superceded by other legislation that specifically exempts a series from the requirement, And the legislation for the State Quarter, ATB Quarters, NA, and President dollars all contain a clause exempting them from the eagle requirement.


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I concur; however, I have another sub-issue with regard to the denomination: the dollar sign on the Native American dollar series has been **the same** every year **except** 2013. WHY?!?

The use of the $ is not mandated on the NA dollar and the designer whose design was chosen for the 2013 coin chose not to use it.


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Now the Native American dollars, though not a set with a definite end like the Presidents,

I don't know if they have a definite end or not. I'm not sure what happens to them after the Presidents end in 2016. The legislation reads that after the President dollar series ends all of the small sized dollare will revert to the Sacagawea design. now since Sacagawea appears on the NA dollars does that mean the NA dollars well continue, or does it mean that the NA dollars will end and all the small dollars will be the same as the 2001 - 2008 Sacagawea design? When the NA dollars were authorized they did not change the language in the law from Sacagawea to Native American.
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I am glad everyone has a different opinion on what to collect.

Otherwise everyone would have the same coins .. be sort of boring.
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One thing I have always wondered was, what was the reason for the law that stated "All coins above the dime in value, must feature an eagle on the reverse"? And also, why didn't the cent, nickel and dime have to feature eagle designs on their reverses? (I'm not a big fan of eagles, but I'll bet a copper colored eagle design on the back of the cent could have been neat)
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