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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
1351 Posts |
A while back you were not charged ebay fees on postage. Whilst if I list 20 items to finish on a Thursday and by Saturday only 50% are paid for the hassle is huge. A = $3 doesn't seem too much.Any thing over $30 I will send recorded. I got caught 10X + before I realized that scum were operating. Any buyer problems block them (they will learn) Publish the whingers here. If you get a coin delivered for $3 how can anyone complain?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1536 Posts |
All this is why when putting in a max bid, I put in max bid - shipping cost. That way if the shipping is too much, it don't matter. I won three auctions lately on Barber quarters in lots of 2 or 3. I requested an invoice seeing if their was a combined shipping discount and the seller accidentally added a sub-charge equaling the original cost. That is OK though I didn't get a shipping discount. They all came in coin capsules I used on other coins that cost a quarter a piece anyhow.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5404 Posts |
Amen Peter that is excellent advice. Our blocked list is not that big though. Most people buying on ebay are honest as by the way are most of the sellers. Operating on ebay has been most enjoyable for many years. It gives a world wide audience for coins that would sit forever in a bricks and mortar shop.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
1351 Posts |
For $3 I quite fancy the silk cushion jobbie and would probably stretch to $5 on a Saturday morning after breakfast and the Mrs has gone shopping....sod that $20 would be fine.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
7375 Posts |
I must be on an unlucky streak. Coin I purchased for over $20, plus $2.83 shipping....turns out seller mailed it with a stamp. This is just unacceptable. Just to make it worse, purchase was on 5th, seller marked shipped on the 7th, then told me he mailed it on the 9th. Still not here yet. Just poor selling imho.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5404 Posts |
Is there a high maintenance category on ebay for buyers and sellers? 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
589 Posts |
I have been a buyer on E-bay since 2007 and things have changed since than. The coin lots use to be excellent but now it is all junk. People were selling on ebay to get a better return on their items( vs.selling to local coin stores),but now it's mostly run like micro-business(for profit). One thing that has improved is the shipping. The sellers are charging less and sending items faster than in the past. When I win a bid or buy an item as long as it is what I was shown or described and sent to me in the time frame as posted, I have no issues. If the seller makes little from the shipping that's fine because they are taking all the risk in getting that item deliver to me.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1751 Posts |
@ Ed I doubt buying on ebay is for you! What's your ebay ID so you can go on my best buddies list. Do you have any idea how your behaviour towards sellers impacts a seller. Anytime you post about buying anything on ebay, it's always the sellers fault. Man up and take responsibility for your choices! You agreed to $3 economy shipping when you read the listing. If you felt it was too much, don't buy! You don't know how far the seller has to drive to mail it, maybe they pay a friend like I do, because I have no car in a small town. Maybe they have to pay bus fare? Then there's the 13% fees and .30 Paypal fees. Sellers often have ebay side with scammers, and lose money. On ebay sellers forum, it's advised to add a little to ship fees as self insurance!! Under the main forum, you posted on a thread a out shipments that take the long route to arrive! You stated the 1st day ebay allowed , you were going to open a case for late arrival you would!! After acknowledging it was USPS fault and not the sellers fault for your coins late arrival. Yet you could see the route the coin was taking and where it was! Every time a case is opened, a neutral feedback left, or a 1-2 for ship fees are left a seller earns a defect. Seven defects from different buyers and a sellers career can be ended. Stop and think how your ACTIONS IMPACT OTHERS! I'm in 100% agreement with Pacific, JD, and Peter! Kudus to you guys, for educating ED and other buyers. ebay has made recent changes to reflect the buyer taking Responsibility for agreeing to the shipping fee as stated! There's too many buyers that think shipping is the cost of a stamp!! Just think how much you spend in gas going to and from a store. It has a cost and is not free. Box stores with free shipping raise the prices on products, so they can offer free shipping. I've seen bullion coins, where it was 1st class shipping, asking $10 for a 1 Oz coin. I know they can ship for under $3. It's up to me to decide, whether or not it's worth it for me. Too many buyers don't take personal responsibility or want something for nothing. Sellers are getting shafted and prices rise to cover the costs of others selfish business. If $3 is too much to pay for postage, you'd best stick to buying coins in person! Sorry for the Rant, I've just tired of reading how it's always the sellers fault, when sometimes it's the post office, or this post was the final straw!! It seems more & more buyers behave like the original poster. The person should pay Canadian postage, now there's something to complain about!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1291 Posts |
I'm a (US) seller on ebay and I'd feel pretty slimy if I charged $3.00 to ship a single coin anywhere in the US and only put a postage stamp on it. All this stuff about having friends drive you to the post office or taking a bus to the post office...who the heck in the US doesn't have a mail delivery person coming right to their residence every day? You know...those folks are paid to ALSO pick up your outbound mail if you have some ready to go. You don't really have to factor in transportation costs unless you have some really crazy circumstances. You have the postage costs and the cost of the envelope/mailer. Period. Labor costs? That's laughable. That's just a euphemism for gouging. The seller just charged the OP over $2.00 for...what? Licking the envelope, pressing a stamp on it and writing out an address? I would NOT give this seller a neutral and I would NOT ding his DSRs over this $3.00 charge, but I would be PO'd just enough to probably NOT ever consider buying from him again. There's no law that says you have to leave any type of feedback, and in this case, I wouldn't.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5404 Posts |
Boy are you out of touch with the realities of running a business. You and farmerjoe haven't sold much looking at your ebay handles.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1291 Posts |
Impressing YOU with what I sell on ebay is not my top priority. But I have been at it for 14 years and have 100% positive feedback on over 6700 tansactions and am considered by ebay as a Top Rated Seller. I sold 17 items for $534 this last weekend. I think my buyers appreciate that I don't try to pad my sales by marking up my shipping charges by 100% or more.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5404 Posts |
A lot of us have been selling on ebay for many years and yes , well said, you don't have to impress anyone.See you are not a heavy hitter on ebay 201 positives in 12 months is pretty much just a collector or vest pocket guy. $ 534 dollars in sales in a weekend is about 40 bucks profit if you really analyze it from a business point of view. I have no idea who marks up their shipping one hundred per cent. Certainly none of our colleagues here in Canada. With the rates Canada post charges you are lucky to recover all of your costs. You and farmerjoe just do not get it, shipping involves SHIPPING and HANDLING and if you are going to be successful in business it is imperative you recover all costs or you will not make money and should not waste your time . Pocket change 50 has it absolutely right with his above comments. I especially love the comment about his best buddies list, as of now plus 2.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1291 Posts |
Quote: $ 534 dollars in sales in a weekend is about 40 bucks profit Why on earth would you venture such an ill-informed opinion as if it was a statement of fact? Were you in the room with me when I tallied everything up at the end? Are you omniscient and all-seeing? You don't have a CLUE what my profit was so why even mention it? Perhaps to demean me as being insignificant in the grand scale of all things eBay-ish...? Quote: I have no idea who marks up their shipping one hundred per cent. Well then maybe you're not paying attention or are too involved in conjuring up my profit. The OP said he was charged $3.00 shipping and that the seller only put a plain old stamp on the envelope. That means he either used a "forever stamp" or perhaps more properly put $0.67 worth of postage on it due to the "contains rigid object" clause in the postal regs. The $2.00+ that he pocketed above what he paid, to my math, works out to more than a 100% mark up.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1949 Posts |
Quote: The OP said he was charged $3.00 shipping and that the seller only put a plain old stamp on the envelope. That means he either used a "forever stamp" or perhaps more properly put $0.67 worth of postage on it due to the "contains rigid object" clause in the postal regs. The $2.00+ that he pocketed above what he paid, to my math, works out to more than a 100% mark up. I think you are missing the point. The OP started out with a question, asking if a seller mailing a coin without a tracking number and charging $3 for shipping was deserving of a neutral feedback. I do not know if the OP was seriously asking if he should leave a neutral for that, or if it was just question posed for the sake of making a gripe heard. Doesn't really matter either way. The only 2 points which matter are: 1. Were the shipping charges clearly stated? (yes) 2. Did the coin arrive safely? (yes) Logically, that is all that should matter. Unfortunately, it seems that it is easy to make a 'holier than thou' argument out of a series of hypothetical situations. I think some fantastic, logical points have been made. The bottom line is dinging a seller for something as stupid as this is ridiculous. You do realize this 'issue' is over like $2?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
7375 Posts |
Like I already said once, I asked a simple question, even with some good humor in the OP. Let me repeat that so it doesn't get read over.....I was possibly blaming myself for being over sensitive after a winter of 250 inches of snow, and February temps averaging 9 degrees. I'm a Meterologist in Syracuse, we're not used to that here, and a lot of people here are on edge big time. My question was simply answered in the first few posts. I never/or have never left a neutral feedback. When someone says economy shipping, or standard shipping, nowhere is it clearly stated what that is. I check ebay every once in a while and the descriptions are still vague. I have listed coins and actually said in the description that the shipping will be a postage stamp on an envelope. That's "clearly described." Maybe people who live in other countries shouldn't take such a harsh stance about shipping issues in this country, a subject we are much more familiar with. Mind you, I said harsh stance, helpful comments are always welcome and encouraged. I respect the opinions of all of those, positive and negative, who buy and sell in this country.
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