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I paid $3 for shipping, and seller sent coin in envelope with a stamp. Granted it was an inexpensive coin, and the seller mentioned economy shipping. I've had excellent luck receiving packages, and have always gotten decent shipping w/tracking when I paid for it. This really bugs me though. Should I leave a neutral feedback, or am I suffering from late winter stress I sent the seller a message, kinda waiting to see what kind of response I get, if any. Seller has 100% positive feedback, and I'd hate to ruin it if I don't have to.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ed , this has happened to me a few times with e-bay sellers. yeah it's annoying. but I let it slide.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DKA-Numis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was the coin noticeably damaged from being just tossed in an envelope? That would be the determining factor for me.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't get too upset about it... The coin got to you no problem right? The same condition that it would have been in had it been shipped with tracking...
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 Posted 03/10/2015  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, you all make good points. Yes the coin was in good shape. I don't know why sellers do this though, because if they priced the shipping properly, the price of the coin would bid higher. OK, I'll let it slide. Glad I asked. Will probably comment on it though.
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I think you made the right decision. But I think I would have felt like you did and I am grateful that you posted and grateful for the responses. The folks on this site are really helpful.

I make a point of putting "packaged securely" when I leave positive feedback. Maybe that helps somebody -- maybe not.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Groszy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as I'm concerned, if you pay $3 in shipping, you expect a tracking number and sufficient packaging. You're paying extra for it. The seller's found a way to extract just a little more profit for himself, and potentially at your expense. Neutral is my opinion, but otherwise you should send him a strongly worded message regarding it and make note of it on his feedback.
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^ agree
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If it's a dollar or two I let it slide myself, I'm not going to nickel & dime someone over a few dollars especially if it's a coin I really wanted. Now if I had paid 5 or 6 dollars & it came with a stamp on it that would be a different story.
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Since he mentioned economy shipping for $3, then you got what was advertised and what you paid for. Therefore, I wouldn't nail his FB for delivering what was advertised.

If he keeps doing this though, he is going to soon run into the inevitable not-so-honest Buyer and get nailed for the tried and true Item Not Revceived dispute. Since he won't have a tracking number he will lose.

He will see the light soon enough.
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 Posted 03/10/2015  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We have a large ebay presence ,it is our business along with our website and doing coin shows. To even think of leaving a seller a neutral in this case borders on ludicrous. The three dollars for economy shipping is probably clearly stated in his listing. That three dollars I will guarantee he is not getting rich on. Lets break it down there is the cost of the postage, envelopes , getting it ready for shipment , gas to get it to the post office and TIME involved, and don't forget ebay and Paypal take a slice of the shipping charge. Groszys comments are certainly not realistic in this thread as they pertain to shipping costs. In every other country in the world save the US shipping costs are very high, three dollars for shipping is a joke! To all out there buying on ebay if you do not like someones selling policies including shipping and handling don't bid or buy!
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 Posted 03/10/2015  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atticguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've sent and received items both ways and normally have no problems. As long as I get the item safe and sound it doesn't matter to me. I've gotten coins and sports cards in white envelopes; and as long as they had secure interior packaging I was happy. Now last week I was supposed to get a coin in the mail but it didn't turn out ok. The seller sent me a basic white envelope with nothing inside! No cuts (holes) in the envelope so I don't know what happened. I did get a refund from the seller, so he still got a positive reply, but barely.
As a rule, I always add whatever the mailing cost is to the cost of the item, no matter how it's mailed.
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Most people take shipping into account when placing a bid. I tend to ignore it unless I win a few auctions and they refuse to combine. They should just charge the cost to ship or free is better so it gives you the option to ship using the best option. You can stick it in an envelope if the coin is in a protective container within the envelope. You can just ding their shipping cost star.

I have done what this seller has done but I asked the buyer if it was OK since it was a low grade 1888 V nickel that only went for $.99 plus shipping.
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I've had this happen to me on a few occasions. What I've generally done is left no feedback whatsoever and followed up with a note to the seller expressing my disappointment with his methods. If his listing said, "Shipping will cost you $3.00 although the postage stamp(s) I put on the envelope will only cost me $0.67", you'd have no cause to complain. But for $3.00, and absent that disclaimer, I think that a somewhat more thorough and safe method of shipping is sort of implicit.

You know what bugs me more than this? It's when the shipper uses the eBay-PayPal shipping method/tools but purposely understates the weight when creating his shipping label. It's like...his listing says shipping will cost me $4.00 and the package weighs 9 ounces, which SHOULD cost him $2.76 to ship, but he inputs 6 ounces and only pays $2.25. That's happened to me at least 3 times. Hard to believe the USPS doesn't catch stuff like that, but I guess they don't.
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03/11/2015 10:31 am
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wow I wish shipping was cheap like that here in Canada. Here just for oversized letter mail it cost $2.00 that doesn't not include tracking of any kind. Then 1.00 for the envelope and time and packaging and ebay takes money from it on top of that

If you want tracking here its minimum $12.00
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 Posted 03/11/2015  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In any other business in a capitalist society, reasonable profit is expected and is built into the cost... You wouldn't go into a restaurant and leave a bad Yelp review because you paid $20 for a steak that you know cost the restaurant $15 to prepare... The restaurant needs to pay for the electricity, rent, waitstaff, cooks, bussing staff, advertising, insurance, taxes, ect, ect, ect. Pacific stated it the best with the breakdown of the cost involved for an online coin store. The costs were as stated, and there was no deceit involved.

Unfortunately, sometimes I think people forget that many ebay stores are BUSINESSES, not simply just outlets which exist to provide other collectors with the coins they want while subsidizing the cost of the providing the coins for the collector.
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