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New Member
United States
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I am back from a trip to Europe (Central and Eastern Europe) and I got an old coin that looks austrian. I would like to find out its value, have no pictures yet. The coin is in very good condition.
Details: 1848 , one side has the profile of Ferdinand and says in latin: Ferdinand , The Emperor of Austria, Hungary and Bohemia, the other side has value 20, year 1848 and the coat of arms of the imerial family and is says in latin, King of Lomb., Venice and Dalmatia.
Here is the latin words for these who understand it:A Ferd I.D.G. Avstr IMP HUNG BOH R.H.N.V , the other side: GAL. LOD. ILL.A.A. 1848 REX.LOMB.ET.VEN.DALM. 20
Thanks in advance.
David-
I also have got two other coins from Romania (1945, 1947) that were minted by the Romanian Royal House before the comunists took over. They show Michael of Hohenzolern, the King of Romania. These are not as old, but are very rare since the Comunist Romania destryed all of them after they took power after the second world war...
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Forum Mom
 United States
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Hello David and welcome to the forum!  I think the coin you're describing is a silver 1848 Austrian 20 Kruezer coin. There should be a letter under the bust indicating where it was minted (A, C, E, or GM). A is Vienna, C is Prague (Bohemia), E is Karlsburg (Transylvania), and GM is Mantua. The E and GM mints are more rare. Please post a pic when you can. |
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United States
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I just wanted to comment on autria coin's. Austria is known for almost nothing in world history. But one thing they should be known for is great coin's. The older kreuzer's of ludwig and Leopold, are some of the best designed coin's ever. In fact most of these early edition's are much nicer than the post 1800 style's. Although early American coin's are very well designed. Those from Austria and Germany are some of the nicest classic's I have ever seen
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Originally posted by robocp
I just wanted to comment on autria coin's. Austria is known for almost nothing in world history. But one thing they should be known for is great coin's. The older kreuzer's of ludwig and Leopold, are some of the best designed coin's ever. In fact most of these early edition's are much nicer than the post 1800 style's. Although early American coin's are very well designed. Those from Austria and Germany are some of the nicest classic's I have ever seen
I do not want to be difficult But I live in Mechelen Belgium which once was the headquarters of the great austrian empire and we have the statue of Margaretha of Austria on the market square Also the first "ponny express" was a stagecoach between Mechelen and Vienna And if I remember correctly they produced Hitler They also produced Maria Luiga duchess of Parma the first wife of Napoleon So all in all they have some historical highlights besides having had some of the world leading music composers |
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Valued Member
Netherlands
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Ageka, bring in even more history, the austrian empire ruled for centuries in europe, in a time the indians where still the boss in the states ;-)
Greetings, Carl
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Pillar Of The Community
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Ageka and CarlTromp, Thank you for defending Austria and its accomplishments in early world history. Guess this is another fine example of WHAT IS NOT taught in schools in North America. I didn't realize how bad our world history was until I reached the ripe old age of 50 and started collecting foreign coins. You really can't blame U.S. citizens for their lack of European history as our leaders and educators DON'T really want us to know any more than what they think we need to know. Thanks to the internet that is all changing, the world has become smaller and other histories and cultures are readily available like they never have been before. Glad I lived long enough to get a taste of the rest of the world and all the fine people who live in it. Not quite like the media tends to paint things, if you know what I mean?
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New Member
 United States
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Hello again, Hope I did not create too big of a stir with my Austrian coin topic. As I was born in central Europe, lived in Canada for 10 years (Canadian citizen) and now living in the US I can honestly say all these places are great places ! In fact I would soon post another topic (with pictures) on some other old coins I have (from Canada and pre-war Romania), maybe I could find out more about those... I am back with an attached picture (both sides of coin) of the Austrian coin I promissed I would post. Maybe someone can tell me what is worth, how rare this is (how many of these are out here), etc. Thanks in advance, David. Image:  Head.jpg23.86 KB Image: BACK.jpg26.64 KB |
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Originally posted by crystalk64
Ageka and CarlTromp, Thank you for defending Austria and its accomplishments in early world history. Guess this is another fine example of WHAT IS NOT taught in schools in North America. I didn't realize how bad our world history was until I reached the ripe old age of 50 and started collecting foreign coins.
I know Terry, I know, I have it seen more often, the world looks like it stops at the border of the usa for american folks. In the time that I was in the Royal Navy, I have visited the states several times, and learned some of the mentality there, and yes, your goverment should do more abouth it, especially when you see that america is mostly founded by the old european country's, and that it is a school example how to build a country!! Now for David; The coin you'r picture shows a 20 kreuzer KM 2208 in the krause 19th cent. edition. Mintmark is an A, and the prices for it would be the following; fine 2,50, VF 4.--, XF 8,--, and UNC 30,-- Hope that helps you? Greetings, Carl |
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Austria
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To say that "the Austrian Empire ruled for centuries in Europe" is an exaggeration.To be more precise you should say that the Habsburg family played a major role in European history. From the 13th century on they possessed a growing number of more
or less independent states and most of todays Austrian federal states where under the first states where they became ruler. The marriage politic of Maximilian I. (1459-1519)
brought them even more power, his successors became king of Hungary, Bohemia and Spain (with all its colonies in the new world!).
At this time the family was divided into two branches one of them kept the spanish crown (until 1700).
The other one ruled in Austria, Bohemia and Hungary and settled in Vienna. From this time on all the territories which this branch of the family possessed were often called Austrian monarchy even though these territories weren't part of one single state. They became one of the main powers in Europe in the 18th century and
in 1804 when Napoleon declared himself Emperor of France the leader of the Habsburg family Franz II. declared himself Emperor of Austria. So he founded the Austrian Empire and all the territories where he was king, duke etc. became part of this state.
That's a very short version of the complicated history of Austria under the rule of the Habsburg family. I hope that it´ll make some sense.
The reason why this Empire of the Habsburg family did not play a major role in your history lessons in the USA might be that they did never found any colonies outside of Europe because they were mainly interested in gaining more territories in continental Europe.
@ CarlTromp
About the American mentality:
Do you really think that we Europeans learn so much more about "world history" in school?
I had history lessons for 7 years in school in Austria and the first time that China was mentioned was when it came to WWII.
Greetings Martin
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Pillar Of The Community
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Hi Msc and welcome to the forum. Appreciate your post as WE all can always learn something from one another if we just take the time to listen. Really glad forums like this are available and we all have the opportunity to voice our opinions, share our cultures and hopefully trade a coin or two down the road. I have quite a few Austrian euros, especially the silver commemoratives, but still managed to miss a few since 2002. Again, welcome to the forum and a really great bunch of collectors from around the world.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Hi Martin Welcome to the forum I think the Austrian empire was a quiete one as empires go Apart from Marie Louiese Duchesse de Parma there was also Marie Antoinette who lost her head in France ( pun intended since if I remember right she ended up in the guillotine ) My fondest memmories are of course the Kaiserin Sissi film series and my visits to castle Schöenbronn and the Prater and the Wiener Philharmoniker etc Being Belgian I got a lot of History on France lessons and the Spaniards who went as far north as Holland and the Viking invadors and Colombus and of course Greece, Rome , Egypt the Phenicians etc and the silk route to China with Marco Polo The things they avoided at all cost was the Vatican involvement with the Nazi regime , the extermination of the Albigenses , the protestants in England and anything that was remotely linked to the pope ( apart from mentioning that at one time there were two one in Rome and one in France ) On the other hand WWII was not commented because when I went to University in 1966 it was still to fresh in the memory to make history books I learned afterwards if you want to know something find yourself three independant sources and decide what is history and what is fiction Short ; I like Austria |
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