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Need Some Help With The Years On These Coins.

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 Posted 10/27/2007  6:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add arthrene to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm trying to decipher the years on these coins. Any help would be appreciated. Also does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could do on the 5 sentimos to remove some of the corrosion?

Japan 10 Yen

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Japan 5 Yen

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Japan 1 Yen

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Philippines 5 Sentimos

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United Arab Emirates 1 Dirham

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 Posted 10/27/2007  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.gxseries.com/numis/asian...asian_yr.htm

Give it a try on the Japanese. Then bookmark that page. I did.
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 Posted 10/27/2007  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
10 Yen- Showa 51st year- 1976
5 yen- Showa 32nd year- 1957
1 Yen- Showa 45th year- 1970
Philippines 5S- issued from 1967-1974.
UAE- looks like 1989
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 Posted 10/28/2007  03:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know I didn't waste time creating the site that Topher mentioned It's a must for Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese collectors when they want to figure out the years.

The 5 yen coin is nice - it's not common these days to find them in the old script font.
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 Posted 10/28/2007  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
United Arab Of Emirates 1989 AD - 1409 AH
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Alright so tell me if I did these two correctly. Using the site, I right in saying that these two coins are from the 52th year of the Showa rein or 1977? What are the denominations on them? And are they Chinese?

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 Posted 10/28/2007  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup, you've got it. See, that wasn't too hard was it?

Geez, I still haven't written a list of country's name in Asian characters, will have to update soon.
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I still need to know the denomination. And are they chinese?
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50 and 100 yen. The term Showa is only used in Japan.
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 Posted 10/29/2007  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sakura to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These Japanese coins use chinese characters called kanji. Kanji is part of the Japanese writing system that has both simplified and traditional chinese characters, but some characters have different meaning than original Chinese.
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One of the ways to tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese coins is that on all Japanese coins there will be three characters at the top of the coin. That read DAI NIHON (loose translation GREAT JAPAN). You can see this on your two coins though the 50 yen is upside down. Below that is the coins denomation 50 yen and 100 yen, etc. On the reverse is the date which is the reign date of the ruling emperor, the first two characters is the emperos name. In this case it's SHOWA (1926-1989) follwed by the number or it can also be written out. The last character is the word NEN which means year.
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Disagree echizento.

Dai nihon will be like this:
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Whereas it should be called as nihon koku
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Watch out though, calling Japan as dai nihon will highly insult the Korean and Chinese - that was the time when Japan ruled Korea and terrified China under the Imperial era.
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gxseries, I stand corrected, you are correct. So used to looking at older Japanese coins I missed the difference.

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Thanks for the Japanese reading lessons guys. That's one thing I want to work on in the next year. I've got some basic speaking/comprehension skills, but getting over the initial hurdle of reading characters rather than a western alphabet is tough.
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 Posted 10/30/2007  02:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sakura to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's an interesting article on the Japanese 500 yen coin, like the one gxseries posted.
http://madeira.cc.hokudai.ac.jp/RD/...n/index.html

Topher, you may find this site helpful for learning kanji.
http://www.myjapaneselessons.com/mj...iQuizServlet
You can also practice by writing each character at least 20x-50x to familiarise, then make small kanji cards for review or to test yourself.
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Wow nice link Sakura. I was well aware of the micro letters on the obverse but not on the reverse!

By the way, there is a good reason why I wouldn't encourage people to learn kanji - there are just too many ways to read it. For instance the letter "kuni", when you add words to it, it can become either kuni or koku or "ko" in various other forms. When you have two "kuni" put together, it becomes kuniguni. At least, the only similar term between dai nihon and nihon koku is the word nihon, which just means "Japan". If that was complicated, there are other words that can have more than 5 ways to read it. It is a big mistake to read it as it is. The word "dai" can be read as oo, tai, dai or in rare cases "ya". For instance, if you know the character for Taisho, why isn't it called Daisho or Oosho. Figures. I gave up learning years ago.
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