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Need help and advice with 33 gold coins. First off NGC and IGC grading charges are very confusing Called about getting the 33 gold coins graded and can't get a price they tell me we charge depending of the value. But yet they say they do not value coin just grade them The lady at NGC was not very nice at all and the man at IGC was better but still confusing. I must put down the value but I do not know that till they are graded? What do you do just put down the lowest Red Book value? My Daughters Father in Law passed away about eight months ago His father was a bank manager and he collected coins most of which were sold when he passed away years ago. But his son my daughters father in law did keep 33 gold coins. I guess his father got these at the bank he managed maybe even from new. Here is a list and a link to a few pictures these are in good shape. My since I am a coin collector my daughter's mother in law ask me to sell these coins for her. These are all GOLD coins Question should I send these to NGC to be graded before selling on ebay? Again these are all GOLD Coin 1914 Liberty most have BLP above the date 1914 Liberty (D) $ 10.00 Indian 1989 Liberty $10.00 Lady 1887 Liberty $ 5.00 (S) Lady 1904 Liberty $ 5.00 Lady 1882 Liberty $5.00 Lady 1893 Liberty $ 5.00 (CC) 1900 Liberty $ 5.00 1901 Liberty $ 5.00 1881 Liberty $ 5.00 1853 Liberty $ 2.5 (D) 1900 Liberty $ 2.5 (D) These are all $ 2.5 dollar Indian with BLP 1912 1915 5 each 1912 1914 1913 3 each 1910 1925 4 each 1926 1928 There are 33 coins in all and all in very good shape. Send them all to get graded? Here is a link to some pictures SORRY just can't get any good pictures with the camera. http://www.cedarcreekrvclub.com/fran-coins.html |
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Bedrock of the Community
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these are going to be the most expensive in the bunch probably 1893 Liberty $ 5.00 (CC),1853 Liberty $ 2.5 (D) and 1900 Liberty $ 2.5 (D). But when it comes to a price to write down I always just put the retail price of the grade I think the coin should be (lower end) and let them adjust the price if they think they need to do so. I would love to see some pictures of these coins and if you could get some we may be able to help you with a grade/value of each specific coin. This is what we live for so don't be shy to post pics
Edit: O.K. I didn't read the whole thread and didn't see the link to the pictures, if there is any way you could get pictures of the three coins I mentioned above (Obverse and Reverse) we should be able to help a little better, from what I see some of those coins are very nice and with the price of gold now these things could be worth a pretty good bit
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 Nice coins! We would love to see some better pictures of them. |
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Hi BruceC, As you probably know, these coins need to be protected from banging in to each other. Please make sure to put them in separate flips or other holders so they don't get dinged up! Regarding certification: the common date coins are only worth paying the certification fee if they are mint state, in my opinion. If these were my coins, I would show them to my local dealer (whose opinion I trust) and find out which if any he thought would make a MS grade. Anything less than MS for common US gold means the coins sell for a fairly small premium above bullion value. ebay might be the best venue for selling those. To add to what Bryan said, the 1893-CC $5 (from Carson City) and the 1853-D $2.50 (from Dahlonega) would be your high-value coins based on date and mint. There is no 1900-D quarter eagle, so you must be mistaken about that one. Finally, if I were looking to get maximum sale price for my certified gold, I would prefer to have them graded by PCGS. NGC and ICG coins in the same grades will likely sell for a little less (not always, but most of the time!). Please post better pictures if you can get them, and good luck! |
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Well thanks from the Red Book I see most of these can be worth foam a couple hundred to a couple thousand. I new you needed better pictures my my Kodak P850 camera will just not take closeups when I try it just gets blurry? My scanner usually does good but do not have my other computer it is in the RV and that is at the dealer right now. Yes I have these protected and in my safe for now. I get confused by NGC and guess ICG and PCGS are different have been confused by IGC nd PCGS thought that may be the same company. From what I can make guess they charge around $ 20.00 to $21.00 per coin have to get an idea to tell the owner of these coins what it will cost her. I do belong to ANA so guess I can send these to NGCC but what about ICG and PCGS can I send to them belonging to ANA? Thanks again I will try and get some better pictures tomorrow. |
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NGC is the official graders of the ANA so they will be the only one that you can send it to for grading for being a member of the ANA. PCGS and ICG are two different companies, you will either need to join one of PCGS membership clubs to be able to send to PCGS or get a dealer to send them in for you that is a member of PCGS. ANACS is another grading company that is respectable also but if you are wanting these graded for resale then I would probably go with PCGS because of their higher resale value. If you are just wanting them graded and authenticated for protection to keep yourself I would probably send them to ANACS, you do not need to be a member of any club to send coins to ANACS and they will also slab coins that have been cleaned or have other problems where NGC, ICG or PCGS will not |
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Well I am selling these for her for as much money as she can get so hope they grade high naturally. I guess the easiest for me without joining yet something else is NGC since I am a member of ANA. One more question these coins are to me in very good condition almost new most of them but two have just dirt on them is it ok not to dip in coin cleaning stuff I have but just wash them with dawn dish soap and water and blow dry or just let the dirt on when I send them to be graded? |
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No, it is not ok to anything to these gold coins other than dipping them in pure acetone unless you don't mind your value of your coins to drop to near gold bullion value. Like others mentioned, post a picture and perhaps other forum members here can give you a better idea of the value.
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You can get a Platinum membership with PCGS for $199 that includes 8 free submissions, which works out to about $25 per coin. The free submissions are good for any coin valued up to $3000, including gold. The 1-year membership allows you to submit additional coins which of course you must pay for. Non-gold coins valued at $300 or less can be submitted at the economy rate which was $18 per coin last time I checked.
I believe that most of the grading services will not grade gold coins at their cheapest rate so you may be looking at $25 or more per coin anyway. The PCGS deal may actually be the better bargain.
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If you wipe or clean a coin with "coin cleaning stuff" chances are very good that you will ruin the coin and they will not grade at NGC at all (come back to you in the same thing you send them in and not graded by NGC because they don't grade problem coins). Just the smallest wipe with a paper towel or almost anything else could leave hairlines which will cause the coins to "No grade" at NGC or PCGS for cleaning (which is considered a problem for coins and not market acceptable). Another option that may work for you also is to stick around here with us and make 50 quality posts with us and take some clear shots of the Obverse and Reverse pictures of each coin and offer them for sale to forum members here (most will use their own grading skills and pay accordingly instead of looking at what the plastic says anyway) and it will save you on shipping and grading fee's to one of the top TPG's (I know you have a few coins that I have been shopping for to finish my Dansco type set). This will not get you alot of exposure like ebay would but it is free to members with 50 posts and may be worth a try atleast. If it were me I would probably send the coins with a CC and D mint mark to be graded to a top TPG anyway just because of their rarity |
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ICG will make them worth less no matter if theirs a 1927-D in the bunch all dealer will offer for coin in ICG holder is gold spot at time of sale
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Edited by Brucec
11/10/2007 2:37 pm
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Well I give up I just can't get a close up with my camera. That one turned out real good but no more will. Have a real good camera but don't know how to use it very good has all kinds of settings I know nothing about.  |
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Bruce, to take close up pics with the Kodak P850 you need to turn the mode dial to scene (SCN). Then move the joystick to display scene mode descriptions. Press the OK button to choose a scene mode. The scene mode you need is one that looks like a flower. This is your macro setting. This should set the camera to take close up pics that won't be blurry.
Hope this helps
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11/10/2007 6:39 pm
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Well thank you I did use SCN but may not have tried scene mode will try that this morning.
Everytime I try to get a close shot I get a red (AF) in the screen.
Will try that scne mode thanks.
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Well tried that setting on the Kodak P850 and it worked better but the pictures are still blurry and not good enough to see the coin details.
The sun is out today maybe I will go outside and try one and see what happens.
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