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Valued Member
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Hello Everyone... First I have to say that I love toned coins... (don't have any pretty ones really) but I think they are beautiful... now my question is: Do some people artificially tone coins with chemical? Can that be done (no, I'm not planning on it) I just am interested in purchasing toned coins and wondered if there is a major beware factor? Can you increase your chances of a coin becoming toned by your storage methods? Just curious... I loved that Walker that 50cent posted (linked below ~ I think) and Susanlynn9 said that those pages produced fantastic color... https://goccf.com/t/20762Kim |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yes, there's a lot of ATers (artificial toners) out there. This is definately BUYER BEWARE! If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. Do a forum search, this has been discussed many times before.
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United States
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Hi Sheepy, Yes, you can absolutely generate artificial toning using various chemicals, smoke, heat, and other methods. You can get a lot of information about natural and artificial toning from reference books like the PCGS grading and Counterfeit Detection guide. In general, artificial toning is spotty and can show abrupt color changes across the coin. Natural toning tends to be more smoothly blended. Even experts can be fooled, however. If you want "safe" toned coins you might want to stick to ones already slabbed by NGC or PCGS. Be prepared to pay significant premiums for attractive color. Maybe 50cents is ready to sell his 1940-S Walker!  |
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Do some people artificially tone coins with chemical?
Yes, it is done everyday with chemicals, gases and heat. quote:
I just am interested in purchasing toned coins and wondered if there is a major beware factor?
I would learn the series that I plan on collecting and learn how they are suppose to look toned. quote:
Can you increase your chances of a coin becoming toned by your storage methods?
Yes, but toning in albums such as the Wayte Raymond takes time. Natural toning does not happen overnight and most coins toned from these albums will lack eye appeal and be downright ugly. Good luck and if you ever need help or need my opinion on a coin just ask. Thanks for the comments on the 40S. Here is a Walker that was stored in a Whitman Album.  Edited by 50cents
11/12/2007 12:07 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here is another example of a toned coin, 1921-D Morgan dollar ,, Cleaned and toned . This is another pitfall which must be looked for when looking at the toned coins ,, cleaned coins are often toned to try and cover the cleaning .   Metalman |
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 United States
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Thanks all... I did do a search as BadThad said... I would say you have discussed this at great detail!
Metalman at looking at the Morgan is the coin toned mostly on the right; therefore unevenly toned Jaobler explained?
50cents... I LOVE YOUR WALKERS!! (am not shouting... just super excited!;))
Kim
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Pillar of the Community
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The most noticeable areas where you can tell that coin is toned over cleaning is on the reverse ,,between the wreath and the wings and under the head ,around IGWT above and below .
The uneveness of the obverse is also due to the varying surfaces of the coin,, the more heavily hairlined areas show as lighter in the pics while the lesser hairlined areas appear darker .
The coin is a smoke gray color in hand .
Metalman
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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You may want to experiment with some modern, not expensive coins. Try dish soaps.
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United States
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So, I've had this walker for a while... didn't spend much... She would be a cleaning gone wrong? Is there anything that can be done for her?   |
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Canada
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Hi Sheepy....... Beautifully toned coins command a premium and as such many unscupulous attempts are made to mimic the look. Almost all are poorly done and are fairly easy to spot, if you are willing to take the time to both learn your series and how that series naturally tones. Buying pcgs, ngc and anacs holdered coins gives you some security, but even the big 3 miss a few. It just keeps coming back to familiarity of your series..... There are some good articles and many examples of both natural and artificial toners across the street at the TCCS boards (there is a link in my sig line), that would be a great place to start. This thread needs some pictures.....here's the one that started my color addiction, an 1885-0 Morgan in ms64.   Image:  1885-o.jpg46.02 KB |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Lots of web sites for toned coins. Try https://www.tonedcoins.org or Toned coin collectors society or TCC Forums. Not sure if these are correct but there are a lot of forums for toned coins. As to me I'd try cleaning the stuff off. Obviously I'm not a toned coin fan. |
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Posted 11/11/2007 10:52 pm
