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Large Cent Questions From A Complete Newbie

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Hello everyone,

I'm going to the biggest coin show of my year in a week. Very excited. I'm looking to improve my type set, specifically a large cent or two.

I want to obviously be educated about my purchase and really know very little about these coins.

Where is a good place to start as far as learning them. I could obviously just buy a F-12 or lower coin on ebay and fill the hole, but I'd prefer to get a coin in the VF35-AU range.

So I ask you, what should I read during my spring break week off of school and what to look for at the show.

Thanks!
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 Posted 03/15/2015  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Depends. What kind of large cent are you looking for? There are different books for different types of large cents. But what do I know...
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Well Duncan you started off on the right foot by asking the community here. There are several large cent experts, myself included who can help. Your first resource should be the RedBook. It lists the different types and the major varieties. It also goes into a brief history of each type. Unfortunately most books on large cents are expensive and geeky.
My personal advice is to root around on the forum here, especially the grading section.
For a coin in VF-to AU I recommend the Braided Hair series. They are common and plentiful and generally affordable. They can also be found in high grades without breaking the bank.
Many of the earlier series are not so common and one can't afford really high grades unless of course you have a trust fund.
Lastly I will warn you that copper gets in your blood stream. Once you get hooked you'll want to collect little else.
Good luck on your large cent adventure.
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 Posted 03/15/2015  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickel Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, seeing that the grade is a concern too, you might want to pick up a book on grading. This is one of many I would recommend.

http://www.amazon.com/Official-Amer...=Ana+grading

Once you have the book, you could practice grading large cents in the US Classic Coin Grading forum.
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Do you mean this show?

https://goccf.com/t/208606

A few CCF members plan to go.
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I have a large cent question that I hope the great knowledge base can help with. Were large cents always broad struck or were collars used after the mint purchased steam presses?

Thanks

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Large cents were struck without collars until 1836 just like the rest of U.S. coinage. After 1836 closed collars were used and the diameter of the coins became uniform.
A lot of Dansco 7099 collectors are frustrated by the fact that pre 1836 large cents have diameters that are all over the place and they don't fit so well into their albums. This of course is due to the broad struck planchets. The edges of pre 1836 large cents are rounded and after 1836 they are much more square.
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Yes matthew I do mean that show. Can't wait.

Also, I have the Red Book & ANA grading guide. I'll study up and go through the grading section to practice. I was thinking braided hair as well Celtic.
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I agree with what's been said - you can buy the later dates 1839 and on in VF-EF grades very inexpensively. Take your time searching for the right ones because much of the joy in collecting is in the search.


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Lastly I will warn you that copper gets in your blood stream.


Celticsoul is correct and I got hooked on the early years mostly because the dies were made by hand and there was so much variation in each year.

Sometimes ugly is beautiful and that's my attraction to old copper. Poor quality copper, corrosion, and heavy usage. I have stretched my budget many times to buy less than perfect 179x cents
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Also, check out the PCGS Photograde: http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/
You can get the app for your phone and or computer:)
Good luck with hunt for early coppers!
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You won't go wrong talking to copper-specific dealers with EAC affiliation. There's always bad apples but I've found EAC guys to be such straight dealers across the board that I'm willing to generalize a favorable opinion of them.
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I think a good start would be to get the recent published grading guide put out by EAC. Even if you eventually prefer to grade coppers by commercial standards instead of EAC standards, there are many bits of information that can help you improve you your own grading of coppers.
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As an EAC member myself I find it best to buy copper from EAC affiliated dealers rather than regular coin dealers in general. When you're at the show and looking for large cent dealers be honest with them and tell them you're looking for a type piece and they'll help you out.
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they are fun coins to collect IMHO
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Tom Reynolds (highly recommended) more than likely will not be at this show. He has a website also.
He has some of the finest raw Large Cents (all grade ranges) I have ever seen. Extremely ethical and fair as well.
But yeah, stick with early copper dealers and you'll be fine. As mentioned, most are willing to work with your budget and wants.
Have fun!
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IMHO, being a newbie and looking for type coins, I'd expect that you'd get more of a bargain from a non-EAC dealer. The EAC dealer will be looking harder at the variety and other, more subtle condition issues; then, pricing it accordingly. I'd vote to keep it simple, but do comparison shop. Also, being a newbie, I'd humbly suggest that you not get into any grading controversy with dealers and simply buy the best looking coin for the money. Grading coins is more of an art than a science. Happy hunting!
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