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New Member
Canada
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I bought this coin yesterday at a local coin shop. The existence of some original luster is what drew me to it. It wasn't until I got it home that I noticed a few irregularities. First, I noticed that the 2 of the year stamp was slightly crooked. Then I noticed the G in the reverse motto was not properly stamped. Then I noticed very fine scuffs in a straight pattern on both sides of the coin, almost as if it had been polished. However, the lines are perfectly straight and go exactly the same direction on both sides. Hopefully, all of these are visible in the pictures. Then I weighed it. I was surprised to find that it weighed 26.7 grams. Is this a fake? I could not find any other examples like this in my internet search. Please help. Thanks.   
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It is most definitely fake. If it's the proper weigh it is likely thicker than an authentic Morgan. Return it while you can. Here is a link to what authentic 1892 Morgans look like. If your coin was authentic it would be considered a far date location, VAMs 2 & 6. http://www.vamworld.com/1892-P+ObversesOh, and  to CCF.
Edited by dave700x 03/28/2015 12:18 pm
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Valued Member
United States
194 Posts |
The 9 looks even more odd to me than the 2. Definitely something going on here.... wish I had more information but I'm not super familiar with these.
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New Member
 Canada
3 Posts |
You're right. It is slightly thicker than my other Morgans.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2815 Posts |
That "9" leapt off the screen when I saw it. It just isn't even remotely correct. The "G" in God makes me think this is a cast copy.
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
Cast copy. Aside the date digits which scream to anyone who knows Morgans, there isn't an 1892 with the date in this lateral position.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1796 Posts |
It is, without a doubt, a fake Morgan. :-(
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New Member
 Canada
3 Posts |
Thank-you everyone! I called the dealer and although he insists it's not fake, he has no problem taking it back.
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
Quote: Thank-you everyone! I called the dealer and although he insists it's not fake, he has no problem taking it back.
Good on him. Let him know the date doesn't pass a casual inspection of anyone who knows Morgans, so he needs to sharpen his skills.
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
 I can see a fake getting by a "we buy gold and silver" MAYBE. Any and every coin dealer should recognize a fake such as this at first glance from a distance. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4883 Posts |
 That askew "2" shouldn't have been missed by any dealer worth the title. Even though he's making this right, I'd seriously consider taking my future business elsewhere.
Colligo ergo sum
Edited by Lucky Cuss 03/29/2015 2:53 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Well, don't be too hard on the guy without knowing how strong he normally is with Morgans. Not all dealers are generalists, and as surprising as it may seem there are those who don't know Morgans. They don't have a family commonality like Seateds or Busts where knowledge crosses denominations.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Dave, I think you are being too kind. Morgans are by far the most collected classic coin. There is no excuse for a dealer not to know Morgans. Especially if they are going to be selling them.
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