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I won this coin in a auction. The only information the seller had was ancient coin. I believe it is Pertinax but I know his coins are scarce only 87 days in power before being killed. I only have these pictures since I haven't received the coin yet . Also no size or weight was given so I took a chance on getting a rare coin for a good price. I have not been able to find him wearing this type of crown only a wreath.I Any ideas? thanks Joseph

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Tantalising! Do you think that is all beard or is there dirt there also?
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It sure looks like him. I'd say yes. Nice find.
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I wont have the coin for a couple of weeks but I hope I can clean it some more. The seller doesn't specialize in ancients so it was not attributed but it still wasn't as cheap I thought 87 GPB, but for a Pertinax I am happy
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I think that you can clean some deposits of the reverse, clearing the type.
The reverse type is liberalitas (At least I think so)
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I saw this go but didnt bid - I suspect it may be a cast fake. Its mushy, pitted and has a filled crack (another sign of casting).
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Anv: IMP CAES P HELV PERTIN AVG. radiated head to right.
Rev: LIB AVG TR P COS II S-C. Liberalitas stg. left holding abacus and cornucopiae.
Ref: SEAR 6057, RIC 25 A, BMCRE 45, COHEN 26.
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Yes, maybe a cast copy.
But it´s necessary to see the coin "on hand" to be sure.
Sorry
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It is hard to tell from the picture if it is a fake I also saw the pitting but it looks like some heavy patina The hard red type so hopefully it is real. If worst comes to worst the seller will accept returns
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Here are enhanced images. The pitting is a concern especially the large pits which could be caused from casting. There is also quite a bit of surface corrosion this can be natural or faked. I'm leaning towards this coin being OK though.



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It looks good to me. The quality of the bust seems realistic and the overall condition of the coin resembles greatly this example of a Pertinax dupondius in my collection.

Would be investing to weigh it when you get it in hand - my example weighs ca. 9,8 grams if I recall.

Interestingly, Pertinax asse and dupondi seems to be much scarcer than sestertii.

Good find!

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