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Gordian III, Alexander & Bucephalus Coin ID Help Needed

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 Posted 03/31/2015  05:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There seems to be many varieties of this coin minted which isn't helping me nail down a RIC number,
Obverse - helmeted bust
Reverse - Horse galloping, rider raising hand, star below
Weight - 9.33
Size 30mm


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I have found the reverse but with a different bust and vice versa.
Just wondering if you can help me with a RIC number ?
TIA
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 Posted 03/31/2015  05:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have a look at http://wildwinds.com/coins/greece/m...oinon/t.html

Reference AMNG III-I, 770
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 Posted 03/31/2015  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have looked through wildwinds Pish, because that 1 has a lower hand holding spear I dismissed it.
Are you saying that mine is just a variety of this ?
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 Posted 03/31/2015  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coins of Koinon Macedonia were issued under a few Roman emperors. I have one which has Alexander on the reverse from the time of Elagabalus. Echizento gave me the reference.
http://www.tantaluscoins.com/coins/109329.php

What makes you think that this is Gordian III?
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 Posted 03/31/2015  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This isn't a Roman Imperial Coin so it would not have a RIC number, as a Roman Provincial coin you would have to check other sources. I haven't been able to find an exact match to your coin, so more sources would have to be checked, Moushmov, Varbanov for example. While phish's reference is close I think it could be a variation of the same coin you should probably check further before marking it as such.
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 Posted 03/31/2015  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Pish
It was the 1st emperor I found with this reverse which may well be completely wrong.
Not knowing who it was minted under I simply stuck with a name I was fairly confident of it being from.
I certainly don't mind being corrected
Hi Echizento
Many thx for your efforts, I knew it didn't have a RIC number due to it being provincial but wasn't sure what else to ask for. I have done a search through the coins of all the other emperors and still no match but the obv/rev appear on other coins but not together.
The reverse of " hand raised " appears on a lot of Denari from Gordian III however most have the rider holding a spear.
I will dig deeper and get back to you asap.
Thx to both of you.
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Have a look at this thread as it contains some useful background info
https://goccf.com/t/201937&SearchTerms=koinon
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 Posted 03/31/2015  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gee, I had forgotten about that thread and it wasn't all that long ago. Guess my old age is showing. Anyway, now that I'm fully awake try Gordian III AMNG 773 var, I think that's a match to your coin.
Go to http://www.acsearch.info/ and use Coinon as a reference and you should find an example.
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when I read the reverse exactly with my old eyes it is SNGCop1363 cf.
Koinon of Mecedon , AE26 first half of the 3rd century AD.
obv: ALEXANDROY : head of Alexander III right
rev : KOINON MAKEDONON B NEOKORON: horseman charging right ,mantle waving behind , beneath dog running right. See wildwinds.albert
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I didn t read Echizento , it can be struck by Gordianus III , will check tomorrow in AMNG.albert
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 Posted 03/31/2015  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Pish & Sorry I missed the thread on your coin, very nice by the way
Echizento your a star, yes it is a match
I have a strange couple of Byzantine types for you that I will post next
Albert, the legend is 100% correct but it is definitely a star under the horse not a dog.
I can bag it & tag it now.
Many thx for your efforts
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 Posted 04/01/2015  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with a star it is from the time of Gordianus III , AMNGIV,773.albert
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