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Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 04/01/2015 10:23 pm See: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mexico-Eagl..._1539wt_1153 Love the description of its composition: "Synthesis of silver China Miao silver" Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff

wonghinghi Pillar of the Community Hong Kong 1270 Posts	Posted 04/02/2015 05:50 am "Miao silver" here means "no silver". Speech sound of "miao" in mandarin means "nothing". Report this Post to the Staff
Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 04/02/2015 3:41 pm I'd further remark that this seller certainly isn't making his fortune selling these at $2.99 with free shipping. It's actually a pretty accurate looking version. I can't tell for sure whether the edge is reeded or not (if it is, that'd be the obvious visual tip-off that it's bogus). Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 04/04/2015 11:52 pm Lucky Cuss - Picture of item is gone - what did it look like? Report this Post to the Staff
Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 04/05/2015 6:02 pm Fortunately, in this case I'd saved the auction images. Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 04/05/2015 8:02 pm Lucky Cuss I have seen those dies before. There is also an 1893 Mo variety same source. Easy to tell in person a bit harder in a picture unless you are aware that the dentils NEVER end before the edge of the coin. I believe that the same maker was responsible for the awful looking eagle normally paired with the 1882 Zs IS cap. Report this Post to the Staff
Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 04/05/2015 8:20 pm Quote: ...the dentils NEVER end before the edge of the coin. Absolutely a giveaway, yes. I was commenting on how well the devices and legends were rendered compared to some of the more crass modern replicas. Do you know what the edge looks like on these? Colligo ergo sum Edited by Lucky Cuss 04/05/2015 11:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 04/05/2015 8:58 pm I have seen three all with a reeded edge but the group I suspect of making these pressure cast copies also can apply a "rolled on edge". The edger they use now has a single die so watch for an engrailed edge with ONE overlap if they chose to up their game. Report this Post to the Staff
Lucky Cuss Pillar of the Community United States 4883 Posts	Posted 04/06/2015 09:26 am One final comment - I do find it curious that of the various issues these forgers have put out, all are quite common and therefore present the least opportunity for profit. Colligo ergo sum Report this Post to the Staff
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