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 Posted 11/20/2007  07:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jcook54 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey ya'll, a customer of mine recently showed me a bunch of plastic bill from Mexico. That was the first I have ever heard of literal plastic money. Is this at all common in international currencies? I did a forum search and read that there are Australian plastic bills as well, but who else does it? It's foreign to me (pun intended) and I'm just curious.
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 Posted 11/20/2007  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a semi-recent development in the world of currency. Many countries across the world are indeed switching from paper/fabric bills to the polymer style.

Some collectors have focused on the polymer notes exclusively. I have a couple of the polymers, mostly from Australia, but one from New Zealand and one from Malasyia too. They're very durable.

More can be found on them, and the countries that use them here: http://www.polymernotes.org/index.htm
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 Posted 11/20/2007  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Australia and New Zealand have switched all their currency to polymers. In 2005 Brunei put out a $10,000 note which has a US face value of almost $7,000.
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 Posted 11/21/2007  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Plastic money" (normally the word "polymer" is used, rather than "plastic", to distinguish the term from credit cards) was first trialled in Australia in 1988, and all our "paper money" has now switched to polymer; we were the first country in the world to do so. The old paper notes are no longer printed. They're still legal tender, but you're likely to get funny looks from the shop attendants if you try to spend one.

Australia has been at the forefront of R&D into polymer banknotes, and has a virtual monopoly on their production; many countries now either have their notes printed here or use our technology under license. Many tropical and equatorial countries have either switched to the substance or are considering doing so, for small denomination notes at least - the plastic lasts much longer in heavy circulation than paper in those climates.

The timeline of countries that issue or have issued polymer notes on Wikipedia is fairly up-to-date.
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 Posted 11/22/2007  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add superbeast1098 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would love to see more countries switch to the Polymer substrate...... Its alot more durable.......
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Hiya superbeast. Glad to see you have joined up here
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Hey Brett.....


Doc told me about this place, so I joined... Its good to see some familiar people around here, as well as see some new people.....
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In 2005 Brunei put out a $10,000 note which has a US face value of almost $7,000.


WOW...looks like this is one I won't be able to get my hands on.


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Question: Is it more difficult to counterfeit the polymer notes?
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 Posted 11/30/2007  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add superbeast1098 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its extremely difficult to counterfit polymer notes. All polymer notes have a clear window on them, and some of those windows have designs in them. The polymer substrate is nearly impossible to get a hold of and very expensive to reproduce in small quantities.


That is a major deterrant to counterfitters.....
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 Posted 11/30/2007  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Polymer note use a variety of things to deter counterfeitting. They can use the same security features found on paper notes (intaglio, offset and letter press printing, latent images, micro printing and intricate background patterns). They can incorporate watermarks in the polymer substrate. They also use security threads that can be magnetic, fluorescent, phosphorescent, microprinted, clear text as well as windowed. And they use new advanced security features not available to paper notes, such as transparent windows, diffraction gratings and holograms.

Using transparent windows make polymer note that can't be reproduced by photocopying or scanning. which makes it harder for counterfeiters
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And they use new advanced security features not available to paper notes, such as transparent windows, diffraction gratings and holograms.

Hmm, I recently read about the next generation of our (euro) notes, and while they will not be polymer notes, they may well have thumbnail sized transparent windows or thermal images for example. And the current € series has holograms anyway.

Seems that over here it is the vending machine industry that would not be happy with polymer notes, but that is probably a technical problem that can be solved. Another issue is that all currently used polymer notes are made either by the RBA or under its license ...

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Well, if they make it hard on counterfeiters, I'm all in favor of these polymer notes! I'm not surprised, though, to learn that the vending machine industry is against them. That's one of the same groups that is against getting rid of paper dollars and replacing them with dollar coins.
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 Posted 12/03/2007  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is a problem which we don't have since the lowest "paper" denomination here is the €5 note. And I don't think the European vending businesses have anything against the €1 and €2 coins. The primary argument against polymer, according to Wincor Nixdorf, for example, was just that they tend to stick together. Don't know if that still applies ...

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Dang, I have been away for a while and haven't checked on this question I posted in a good while. I just wanted to say thanks to all the folks who have helped educate me on this topic. So, thanks!
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I still have a few polymer notes from my trip to Mexico and it is interesting to see the difference in wear between the window and the rest of the bill. The window appears to be less durable and resistant to creases. I am interested how Australia was able the make the switch. Does everybody fight and raise a stink about the switch and the government just did it anyway. I guess Canada went-bill less for 1s and 2s. One day we will. It just makes sense. Sometimes you just have to let folks complain and move on anyway.
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