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I was looking through a group of AU-BU 1964 Kennedies and came across 5 pieces with triple serriffs on WE TRU and the top of the 6 in the date. What might they be worth? Here's a link that shows some of the triple serriffs. http://bellsouthpwp2.net/b/a/bastackyp/64tdo.jpgHarvey |
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Cherry pickers list the Tripled die at 35 $ in MS-63, 75 $ in MS-65. Those are the lowest grades listed. I figure a nice XF-AU one should get 10-20 dollars. I could be wrong on that - and I hope I am- I have quite a few DDO, TDO, and QDO halves along with a bunch of RPM's- some of the RPM's are also DDO's. I see no listings for an RPM+DDO 64-D. The serif splits on that coin look like the quadrupled die variety. Check the "U" in trust- on the tripled die they go straight down, the splits on the 4x die spread slightly to the right. All 1964-D Kennedy half dollars are rare in MS-65 and above according to Cherry Pickers |
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I had a look at all 5 of the pieces. The U seems to have just 3 serriffs on it as well as the other letters, but the spread appears to go down and slightly to the right which you say may be the 4XDO. I'll be happy to call these TDO's. Have you found many of these? Do they appear to be common? Thanks for the help. Harvey
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I look through my dealers bag of halves a couple times a week and after seeing (guessing here) about 3000 D mint Kennedy's I would say that Doubled dies are not exceedingly rare (unfortunately ) .I probably have about a dozen DDO's, 3-4 TDO's, and I think two QDO's. Having never really kept numbers I would say rarity increases with DDO then TDO and QDO. Watch for Re-Punched Mint marks as they are fairly common and pretty easy to spot. I have a couple with a DDO and RPM, not sure what those might be sold for. I find the easiest place to find the serif splits for most all of the varieties to be the top end serif on the S in trust and the T next to it. Most are easily visible , but many are not so dramatic and can easily be missed. As for the QDO, it is very difficult to see the fourth serif and may require higher magnification - but it is there. I can only say Cherry Pickers describes the QDO as spreading to the right slightly and the TDO is straight down. I am going to try to find some of these in mint sets, not sure if they are there or not - but that could be the best shot at a 65 or better, however unlikely. I found these very helpful in finally showing me first hand what a true Doubled Die should look like and I would encourage anyone to search through some 1964-D Kennedy's , it should not take more then a hundred or two before you find one. I find a couple most every week. Kennedy's are common and most end up in the melt bag, I'll buy DDO's and RPM 's all day at melt prices !! |
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Guys this one has 4 points on the serif of the W of WE, this is a QDO....Specifically an FS-50-1964D-105 (013.6) or CONECA 5-O-II as seen in the CherryPickers Guide. As dramatic as it is, still a $20.00 coin in this condition. MS-63 is a $35.00 coin. Thanks, Bill Edited by foundinrolls
11/25/2007 11:00 pm
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I have to agree with you Bill. I have the Quad die and this one exhibit the same diagonal angle that this one exhibits.  Edited by Vaslin
11/26/2007 09:03 am
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That's a nice find Harvey! Congratulations. I found a similar one a few months ago. Yours is in better condition. Are all 5 coins the same?
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Good call guys, I know these are not "valuable coins" but- I get them at melt and anytime I can get a coin worth 20 or more bucks for melt, I am all over it.
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I had a closer look at the 5 pieces that I found. All appear to be UNC. All 5 appear to have only 3 serriffs. A 6th piece that I found which is a 1964P is only a DDO, also UNC. None of the 5 have RPM's Harvey |
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If the first picture you posted is an example of one of the coins then you are miscounting the serifs.
I am not sure how the first coin posted can be like the rest and not be the QDO. If you are talking about different coins than the first one posted, maybe you can post a picture of one of those.
Something doesn't make sense yet.
Thanks,
Bill
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I think what they are saying is with the angle of the split serifs it can't be anything but a QDO, because the angle doesn't match a DDO or TDO Edit: I checked on Coneca's website and it says the 5-O-II is a TDO but also says it was reported by Bill Fivas so maybe the Coneca site is wrong. here is what it says though Designation:5-O-II-C (3); FS-50-1964D-105 (13.6) Description: Strong triple spread on IN GOD WE TRUST, date, TY of LIBERTY, and hair at back of head |
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for some reason when I saw the name Bill Fivas I was thinking that was our foundinrolls for some reason (I have no idea why because I know his last name is O'Rourke) and thought maybe coneca had the description wrong since our Bill (not Fivas) had discovered the 5-O-II so if he said it was a QDO then maybe the site was incorrect on their description
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