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1966 Crack, Chip, Cud Penny Or Lincoln Memorial Die Crack

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This die crack runs from the top left of the L.M. to through the O and N in One Cent and then down to the edge where there is a large rectangular object at the bottom on the edge. Is this a die crack and a Cud or what?



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Below is a better picture, but ignore the felt over CENT.
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12/01/2007 5:56 pm
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 Posted 11/30/2007  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Abe, looks like a lamination separation to me.
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I would have thought that also, but the mark below the NE of ONE looks more like the coin got damaged. So I'm undecided. Is the coin bent? That would explain the flattening of the letters there.
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 Posted 11/30/2007  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add honestabe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, that is what I looked for first. I thought it was a cracked coin, but it is not bent.
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looks like a crack (roof)
chip (left of stairs)
Cud (inside of lower rim)
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I found this today. A crack, chip, Cud. This will be good for my collection. They must have happened all at the same time. Thanks for the help in identifying this coin.
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12/01/2007 08:17 am
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Still looks like lamination to me. I have never put a coin in a vise and bent it, but the break did not look like this. I would like to look at this one in hand, though. And, yes that appears to be a Cud.
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Jim, you may be right. I just researched lamination errors in my book and the object on the steps of the coin look like a " Blow Hole" or lamination error. Blow Hole is the term lended from the welding trade. A Blow Hole is a type of lamination error.
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I agree this is a lamination error, never heard of it being called a Blow Hole because its nothing like welding its just where air bubbles or dirt gets under the plating and peels away from the base metal
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In "Strike It Rich With Pocket Change", the authors say a Blow Hole is "when lamination is severe enough to pass entirely through the coinage strip and is then punched out orientated somewhere entirely within the confines of the coin's rim,..." A Blowhole is a "rare error type". Page 191 and 192 of the book. P. 192 shows the pictures of 2 blow holes on a Lincoln Cent and they look like the same as this penny that I found, in my opinion.
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Hey, Abe. I am with Bryan on the terminology, never heard Blow Hole used in a coin collecting sense. Not saying it does not exist, just that I do not hear it regularly referred to.

I do not have the book, but from your definition, it almost sounds like the author is trying to describe a corrosion spot, probably started as a lamination break, and became severe enough to go completely thru the coin. My guess, anyway.

Before I saw the light and sold my truck body building business, I spent a lot of time around welding. When welding, especially thinner steel, applying too much heat in the form of electrical current would actually melt through the steel at the point of contact with the welding rod. We referred to it as a blowout as you literally blew a hole in the molten steel.
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You should check the book out. It is in most bookstores right now. P. 191 defines a Blow Hole and p. 192 (top) shows two pictures. The pictures look exactly like the blob on the steps of the memorial in my picture. Does anyone know what a Blow Hole is worth?


I would post a picture of the Allen & Potter photos of blow holes, but copyright laws forbid me to do so. Check the book out on page 192.
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12/09/2007 1:45 pm
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Thx, Abe. I will look at the book the first chance I get.
Jim
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