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Large Cent, Corrosion Or ?

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 Posted 12/08/2007  10:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cpfull to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have this 1851 (I think) large cent that is very corroded, and I was going to use olive oil and/or other methods to see what they do.
But the reverse looks weird, what does anyone think it could be, a major lamination defect or a result of the corrosion?


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Large-Cent,-Corrosion-Or-?
I reversed the colors to show the area a bit better,

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and here is part of the rev showing the area crossing several letters

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I am confused because the lettering looks just as strong (relativly speaking) on each side of the ridge.
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 Posted 12/08/2007  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its very hard to tell ,,but My opinion is that its a result of the corrosion on the coin.

and from the pics the coin is an 1851.

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 Posted 12/09/2007  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like the coin was buried or suffered some other type of environmental corrosion. Mike
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 Posted 12/09/2007  01:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrycopaul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe glue where somebody ran out of tape to stick it in an album
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 Posted 12/09/2007  03:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't take my word to the bank, but I think it's HEAVILY corroded, probably burried underground, in an area where there are a lot of water and copper reactive chemical.

I can still make a good conversation piece if you can "make it look better"
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 Posted 12/09/2007  05:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tonphil1960 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes decayed, decrepid, probably exposed to the elements for 50 years or more. yeah just clean it up with oil and that's it.

Tony
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I just remembered my scale, and it is about a gram under weight. I don't know why I didn,t do that first. What I don't get is how the letters of the legend are readable even where the copper has corroded off. I figured they would go first, being higher and very slightly less compressed. I have the same questions about the thin acid bath cents in other threads. Anyone have an answer?
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I would think corrosion goes to the weakest part, like water, the path of least resistance. The coin is a metal, which is not perfect, it has layers and weak places in it especially old copper like this. These coins were not made with the metallurgy we have today, they just got some copper made the blanks and struck the coins. There are many imperfections in the metals.

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I'm guessing that the coin was a black at one time and something was used to clean off the devises and the not touch the fields. Kind of like antiquing. If a blackened coin is carried with other change in the pocket it will also make the devices show and leave the fields dark. Just my guess on it. I would NOT use any acid cleaner. I fried on a coin that was found outside for a long time. The cleaner made the whole coin flake off the planchet. So it is best to leave the corrosion along.
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defanitely a dug coin

my guess is that there isn't much metal missing along the bottom of the coin but rather that the rest of the coin has been raised by the corrosion and that is why the detail is still there along the rim.
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