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1904-S... Good As A Pocket Piece 4 Lowball?

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Hey guys, I've been thinking of turning a morgan into an 01 lowball by way of my pocket. I thought this 04s would work and being a key date Id like to possibly make it THE finest 04s lowball or close too it. My questions are, is she a good candidate and how long to get her to where I want it and is there any "procedure" other than just putting it in my pocket? Thanks!

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You should keep it in your pocket with some small change and maybe your key chain. But, DON'T spend it on accident. That happened to me once. :(
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It's going to Take a long time to turn it to a PO-1 in your pocket. Most real lowball Morgans got that way in slot machines as they were loaded in the slot again and again. Just having it roll around in your pocket isn't enough contact to wear it down that much in my opinion.
DaSlayer. How did you accidentally spend a coin as big as a Morgan?
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DaSlayer? How did you spend a morgan? But I don't think you should lowball this coin. I am kind of against ruining better-key date coins.
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What is a 01 lowball?
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thecoinguy1964


They look something like this.

PO-01 have to be TPGed

Hope this helps




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A PO-1 lowball is a coin that the professional graders have graded as Poor-1 as opposed to say Good-4. True "low balls" are very worn coins where the date is still readable and can be graded. There are many very worn coins where the date is not readable an are sent back as "not grade able". There are collectors who pay a premium for slabbed coins grading PO-1.
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What if the coin had specific design that was available for one year such as bicentennial coinage. Would they still not grade it without the date?
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@SilverStackerKid

I didn't spend a Morgan. My pocket piece was a Kennedy half-dollar.
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Good question Bert...
I just got a bicentennial quarter in change an hour ago
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People pay more money for a coin that is essentially destroyed? I don't get it...
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@Bertensgrad to answer your question, yes they would. If it were say a Bicentennial Quarter or an 1839 Silly Head large cent for example. If it is obvious what the undated coin was, yes they should slab it.
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@Tbolts10... people pay huge premiums sometimes for the lowest possible graded morgans... I'll let someone with more eloquence describe why
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First: There is only one 1904-S in PCGS P01.

Morgan collectors are a seriously motivated lot. Further, they're variety enthusiasts, and Morgans (most years) circulated heavily. Lowballing started with Morgans, as a direction some collectors with odd tastes chose to extend themselves. It's downright competitive now - there are 61 Lowball PCGS Registry sets in the "Basic Set" (date/MM) category.

Keep in mind, talking about having manufactured one publicly will get you ostracized from the collecting community, and I'll be one of the ones handing out pitchforks. It's as abhorrent as cleaning.
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Wait, SD. I thought it was acceptable to pocket piece a coin? I guess that's just to remove hairlines? Please educate me here, I just thought it would be fun to do... if accepted by the hobby!
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It's your coin Cascade, I say do what you want with it. Nothing wrong with carrying a coin in your pocket. If it wears it down to a 01, then that's awesome for you!
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