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C'mon, this ain't the worst one.  Mint mark position and periods on the reverse are off, but at least it resembles a Lincoln. I'm giving the seller time to respond, because we can pretty much make these go away at will these days. We're just not going to abuse the privilege. |
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Some sellers on ebay could just be regular people who have an ebay account but don't know about coins and have inherited counterfeits. Before you report the seller you should give them the benefit of the doubt. You do not know the story, they might even be a dealer who was scammed and does not know the difference. However, I agree with messaging the seller. |
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It's the third 1909-S VDB he's sold in less than a month.
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I would have checked him out but my work blocks ebay :-/ and I don't own a smart phone :-) |
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and I don't own a smart phone :-) Some would call you a smart phone owner for that. Always check out the seller, current and previous offerings and Feedback before even posting here. Never fail to give them the benefit of the doubt, and approach them respectfully, first, before reporting even if you're positive they're scamming. Part of our ability to drive a legal stake in their heart, under the law, is to make sure they see the bullet coming. |
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He even guarantees its authentic.....
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Please put this one on hold. I am working with the seller, and he's being a gentleman (if understandably skeptical) about it.
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Well, that didn't pan out. Too bad there's no way in ebay's reporting system to tell them what the problem is. |
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Pillar of the Community
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I've looked at it several times and still can't figure out what's wrong with it. Help?
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There are 4 known obverse dies used to produce the 484,000 1909-S VDB Lincolns. Each has a unique mint mark position and orientation. This coin most closely matches mint mark Position #2, quite accurately in fact. Position #2's mint mark is rotated clockwise.In fact, here's a "good" example the same seller sold himself: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lincoln-cen...047675.l2557His images are quite good. You can clearly see the one is rotated and the OP coin here is not. Mint mark Position #3 is also close, but that mint mark is also rotated. Only Position #4 - way below the 9's - is not rotated. The VDB on the reverse looks OK. It's my thinking that this is a non-S VDB with the mint mark added, and the coin was treated with Deller's Darkener to hide the work. That's not a natural color for a Lincoln. It's the color of Deller's. Here's PCGS' page on the mint mark locations: http://www.pcgs.com/News/Counterfei...incoln-CentsThe seller remained polite to the end, and I don't think him a deliberate troll. His record, and his coins, are otherwise good. I just think he's realized he's into a fake for hundreds of dollars - he claims to have cracked it from a PCGS Details slab which I chose not to address - and doesn't want to get stuck. |
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Posted 04/15/2015 4:32 pm
