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Did you inform the seller?
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Still, either an altered date, or something else. Quote:
I reported it.
Even though by your own admission you can't specifically identify why it's a fake. Please don't take this as an attack, man, but we need to work to more stringent standards than this. It's fake, of course. The date digit spacing is wrong. But we need to be able to provide specific facts like that before we trash someone's livelihood on ebay. |
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For reference here is a picture  |
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So is it an altered 44 d ?
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Also messaged seller. Mint mark is pretty far off the real position. If I had to guess, I'd say cast counterfeit, since the mint mark location is the same as a few others found on the internet. If it's a shaved 1944 it was done very well... Sellers:  Real:  |
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Perhaps a good candidate for a Mason Jar Find?
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So is it an altered 44 d ?
Almost certainly, but I'd have approached the seller in a communicative rather than confrontational fashion. I know well how much distortion can be introduced very quickly by macro photography of a tilted coin. |
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Is it just me or if I had a $200 coin trying to sell on ebay, wouldn't you want to take a great picture regardless if you are or are not a numismatic... I think the fact most of these are horrible pictures speaks volume to the sellers knowledge of their authenticity |
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I think the fact most of these are horrible pictures speaks volume to the sellers knowledge of their authenticity This is my default attitude, even though I'm probably wrong about that 80% of the time. I just got re-taught that lesson rather forcefully earlier this week. |
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Speaking of which (that other thread), I found this little tidbit regarding the 1914-D. Not sure if I trust the veracity, but perhaps interesting. Quote:The genuine mintmark will sit in a little bit of a depression from the displacement of metal when teh mintmark was struck. The counterfeit examples won't. (Cited from: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/au...coln.76229/) |
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As I learned in a very public and embarrassing way a few days ago, those "bowls" are likely an artifact of an LDS die, so that statement shouldn't be taken as a generalization.
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The genuine mintmark will sit in a little bit of a depression from the displacement of metal when teh mintmark was struck. The counterfeit examples won't. I can see how this would be true for an added mint mark like on an 09S VDB, but if this is an altered 44D, wouldn't the depression be the same? |
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the coin was look at by a dealer how told us that it was cleaned a long time ago but did not say any about being a fake we have been selling my fathers coin collection who passed he collected mostly cents we have sold many rare dates with no problems but I will have it look at again thank you. I was nice in my reply, recommended ending the listing until they get another opinion on it, and I see that the listing was ended. |
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