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 Posted 04/27/2015  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent, this thing is moving along nicely. Following along with your learning how to use the setup to maximum potential is going to be good for everyone. Ask away, this forum has a lot of folks who can point you in the right direction, and many more that are interested to see where this leads...
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 Posted 04/28/2015  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dar...I assembled the components we discussed and they work beautifully together. I can achieve a range from 1:4 up to 2:1 with the 75mm lens. Here is a pic of the setup in action, on my boom stand base, with your boom, focus block, bellows mount, bellows,and lens, and my camera on top:

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And here is the Lincoln Cent photo you see on the screen "Live" in the background. Note I did not take much care with lighting (single Jansjo as you can see above) or in adjusting the setup to be square to the coin (it's focused well in center but not so well left and right), but it gives you the idea of what things will look like:

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Here is the setup framing a full cent:

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And here it is framing a Dollar:

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 Posted 04/28/2015  07:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love the "rocket ship" base on your blower.
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 Posted 04/28/2015  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dar I hope you don't mind me jumping in on this, I have been reading and following this thread and I think I'm behind Dar in knowing what to get or do.

rmpsrpms, great pics of your set up, but can you put arrows on it saying what each pices is so we can see where they go ?

Now there as been a lot of different parts that have said we can use and some have said don't use,
Can rmpsrpms or ssdave put a list together starting with the camera and all parts needed for a set up, but keeping the cost down?

Thanks guys

Oh I should say I'm looking at just for coins, small to large and close ups.
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 Posted 04/28/2015  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Here's all the information you're going to need on the subject:

https://goccf.com/t/158182

It's a long thread, but the majority of the meat you're looking for is in the first few pages. The rig Ray built for Dar here is only one of a number of different ways of doing the stand, so yours doesn't necessarily have to look like this. There are enough ways to put together an effective stand that when it comes time to spend money, you can let budget be your guide, snag what's cheap at the moment, and let that dictate how you build it.

If you're ready to pull the trigger, start a thread all your own and we'll work on your specific case. It's no problem to post what you did here, as it gave me another chance to link that thread and any chance at that is a good chance.
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 Posted 04/28/2015  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I love the "rocket ship" base on your blower.


I was also admiring that, only it reminded me of a gravity bomb -- perhaps an implosion-type (fat-man) nuke?
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 Posted 04/28/2015  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an annotated pic of the setup:

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 Posted 04/28/2015  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent Ray!

Looks like it will work wonderfully!

I am ready to complete the transaction whenever you are ready to ship.

I have been reading a few of the threads and starting to get a basic knowledge of my camera as well. There's ALOT of reading to do.

So far I have only taken a few pictures with it hand held and none of coins yet. This evening I am going to try and set up the software, (it is already installed), and figure out the live view program.

I'm going to have to make a little more room on my desk but that shouldn't be a problem. I just have to move my tower under the desk, It's a full size tower I built myself and takes up ALOT of space.

That's another thing I should ask. For the post processing software I have been reading it takes a lot of processor.

I'm running an Intel Core i5 3.5 overclocked to 4.1 with 32 gig's 1600 MHz ram water cooled.

I also have an SLI config with 2 Nvidea 660t GTX cards which I belive will make no difference in what I will be doing.

This is a good rig but I was wondering about the processing time for the things I will have to do like z-stacking and stiching. This setup should be more then adequate correct?



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Dar I hope you don't mind me jumping in on this

Not at all Sir!

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 Posted 04/28/2015  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a picture of my nice, clean, working area.
You can see why I need to rearrange with the size of the tower on the left.

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The wife is makin by me some black out curtin's for the windows and mirror.

This is my only area I have in till my son can come and get his bedroom set out. Then I will have my own "studio"


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 Posted 04/28/2015  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok Ray, everything is sent and just waiting on the items. I can't wait to start the setup and start posting pictures.

To be continued...
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 Posted 04/28/2015  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This setup should be more then adequate correct?




Um, yeah, it'll handle things OK. Dude, in the vernacular we call that a beast. With that much RAM, you could put your programs on RAMdisk and run at Ludicrous Speed.

Nothing stopping you from putting a lens on the camera, pointing it somewhere and using that to learn the software right now. It'll function identically.
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 Posted 04/28/2015  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do my stacks on my "fast" machine, a 2.66GHz P4 with 2G of RAM running XP SP3. It's slower than I'd like (you can always say this...) but I am not complaining.
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 Posted 04/29/2015  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This is a good rig but I was wondering about the processing time for the things I will have to do like z-stacking and stiching. This setup should be more then adequate correct?


My machine is a 3.4GHZ Haswell, no overclocking, no water cooling, no SLI, but with 8-way hyperthreading and 32GB.

Stacking with Zerene Stacker is not too bad (a few to several minutes), but most stacks I do are not very deep -- usually only 40 to 60 exposures (not coins, BTW). At least, Zerene Stacker gives you something to watch, as the stacked image is being formed.

On the other hand, panorama stitching (with Auto Pano) can be very slow. I once did a 154-panel panorama (Milky Way, not coins), and it took hours to process. Much of the time you could not see the progress, so it seemed slower.
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 Posted 04/29/2015  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heh. A 154-panel pano is a workstation-class task.

These types of software tend to be written to multithread by nature, as the operations lend themselves to it, but also tend to have many processing options to leverage what the system running them may (or more importantly may not) have in the way of resources. If the operator has chosen those options to best suit their equipment, well, that's what it takes for their system to accomplish such a massive task.
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 Posted 04/29/2015  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Cool!


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Um, yeah, it'll handle things OK. Dude, in the vernacular we call that a beast. With that much RAM, you could put your programs on RAMdisk and run at Ludicrous Speed.


Yea, I built it mainly for gameing almost 2 years ago and left room for expansion. I can run like 5 games at the same time keeping the frame rates up in the 50fps area. (Eve online, World of tanks, War thunder, ect...), When I build something, I like to take in the possibilities for upgradeing. Or I don't do it. I DO want to add 2 more 24in monitors someday to ease the process. They are coming down fast in price so maybe by next year.

The next thing I'm eyeing is 2 @ 500Gb SSD's to get the 1 TB hd free for images to start and then a couple more external 1-3 TB hd's for storage. I have read that some RAW format's will run at 24Mb each shot so I want to be prepared.



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Nothing stopping you from putting a lens on the camera, pointing it somewhere and using that to learn the software right now. It'll function identically.


That's what I plan on doing. Ray is sending the setup and while I'm waiting, I have been studying the manuals and watching some videos to try to get used to the camera. It's going to take longer then I thought. But, I LOVE learning anything new and have been enjoying myself.

This might slow down my collecting for a bit whilst I get used to the equipment but It's well worth it in my eye's.

I Just received the AC adapter in the mail from Canon today as well so I'm set as far as that's concerned. Although I couldn't belive the cost of it, ($144.00 w/ a 20% discount), when I first saw it, but I know it will more then pay for itself saving the batt's for being mobile.

This is So much fun!

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