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 Posted 04/29/2015  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Get into your file management practices now. Don't worry about RAW yet - please, add that after you've got the .jpg processing and camera usage down to habit. RAW will be the next step. Unless, of course, you want to just dive off the end of the pier, and anybody who wants to run 5 games at once probably wants to do that anyway.

Needless to say, either copy the originals to process or always Save As (my habit of almost 30 years). Save the original of every shot you choose to keep, and destroy everything else. I save the original, a full-size processed image, and one at a convenient size for online posting. If you're shooting RAW, shoot RAW + JPG and keep the originals of both. Everything else is extraneous clutter which will haunt you in the future if you don't bite the bullet and make it habit now. Trust me on this.
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It gets even worse later when you start doing stacks. I had to create a whole new structure when I added 2D stacked and 3D rendered images. Keeping the "original" means all the source files (10-40 typically) plus the "original" 2D, etc. Gets big fast.
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I had 50k images totaling 75GB before I had my O_O moment. Killed a whole day regaining space, and that was before I even began shooting RAW.
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Just to update, I haven't received any equipment yet. Today I have watched over 18 videos just trying to get familiar with my camera and I'm still not close to being finished.

GREAT camera though. Now I understand that it is basically optics with a dedicated computer.

Just starting to sink my teeth in!

Gotta LOVE IT!
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Now I understand that it is basically optics with a dedicated computer.


Perfect. You're manipulating software here, not doing photography. The only "art" involved is in the lighting and that still answers to hard rules, you know?
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Good perspectives here. Don't forget there are electro-mechanics involved as well. It's the electro-mechanics of the shutter system that make us recommend Canon over Nikon, for instance, and that make the difference between an autofocusing standard lens and the full manual bellows setups.
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Great News,

I Just received my packages. Both the Stand, (from the ebay link), and the bellows set that Rpmsrpms, (Ray), was good enough to set up for me.
I have not had time to take any photo's yet with the set up as I am still learning the basics of the Canon EOS 70D.

I cleaned up the stand. No big deal really. It had some very minor surface rust starting to form and WD40 took care of that. No pitting so it's good to go.
I have to say that the thing is a monster. The Base by itself weighs in at 20.6 lbs so there's not much that going to move it around by accident.
Just have to make sure the table I set it up on is stable and level so I have a good starting point.
Everything here is carpeted so I will have to figure out something with that, but it shouldn't be a big deal.

Everything Ray sent is VERY Nice so again I thank you sir!

I have some running around today to do so I will not be getting to the set up till later but I cant wait.

I Still have to learn to do the Live View through the computer but have already set up the WiFi function on the camera for the phone and tablet.
I know I won't be using them for shooting coins but It IS a cool feature of the 70D so I had to do it.
This evening I will hopefully get the computer hooked up to start shooting.

OK, that's a big enough wall of words for now. I'm going to get my running with the wife out of the way so I can come home and play with my new toys.

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 Posted 05/02/2015  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent! Glad all arrived in good shape. Now you know why I thought it would be best to buy the stand directly from seller. It's big, and heavy, and shipping would be a big expense. Note that mine sits on my wood desk and I do slide it around...so I have installed some of those plastic sliders so it doesn't damage the wood. It won't move unless I really push on it.

The table does not have to be perfectly level. The boom allows rotational adjustment in one axis, and the head allows rotation in the other axis, so you can level vs the table using the mirror technique. If the table is not level, no worries.
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hello,

yet another question.

After watching quit a few videos on the settings for the camera on live view and shooting, one of them mentioned color calibrating your monitor correctly, but did nothing more then mention it.

Being a person who has built computers and is currently running a Asus monitor @ 144mhz, I had not even remotely thought about color calibrations. Which really irk's me for some reason. (thought I covered all the bases). And I don't know how to do it. YET!

Can anyone lead me in the right direction to find out more about this? Does/will it make a big difference and save some time in what the images will look like or simplify the process? Or am I Over thinking this?

Thanks.

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Monitor calibration requires expensive optical hardware and software. Google Searching online forums for guys who have already done that with your model and published the nice settings only takes a few minutes.

An IPS panel is preferred, but a TN panel (especially Asus, I like their stuff) is probably more than up to the task. Do you know what percentage of gamut coverage they claim for yours?
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 Posted 05/04/2015  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked up gamut on wiki but not sure I have the concept down.

Here is a link to my monitors spec's if it will help.

http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projec...cifications/

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This is my monitor as well, and I love it. It's on my main work machine and I immediately noticed less eye strain when the refresh is cranked up. The next time I set the machine up (which will be soon) it will also be hooked to the camera, and I'm sure it will also be great for when it's tethered. When it goes back down to $200, I'm getting another. Keep an eye on it http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B2HH7G0/ as the price fluctuates between 290 and 230 but HAS been down to 200. I'll be keeping an eye out as well so I'll pop in here again when it gets down that low. Maybe during July 4th sales.

To calibrate, you can use things like i1 Display Pro or Spyder4 Pro/Spyder5 Pro or you can use the Lagom LCD monitor test images to manually do it.

If you use the monitor at 120mz and have an NVidia GPU you could use StrobeLight to handle motion blur (this is more for your gaming - hopefully the coins won't be moving while you're trying to photograph them )

Tom's Hardware posts have some ICC profiles - just google "calibrate asus vg248qe" (here's one http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/i...monitor.html ) but it's been so long that I don't remember where I got mine All I know is that any other monitor sitting next to it looks like a bad photocopy of an original.

You're going to have quite the setup when you're done!
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Dar, the calibration effort for the monitor starts on Page 3 of xshift's link.
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Thanks

I have calibrated the monitor according to that link and am trying to get used to it seeing I was using stock settings for the past year.

Thanks all!
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Everyone who posts good images here has to learn this - it's that knowledge which sets the good shooters apart from the poor ones, more than the equipment.


Late to the discussion, I know, but I just wanted to second this sentiment. I am not a professional photographer by any means, but people seem to think my coin photos come out well. My equipment consists of an el cheapo Fujifilm FinePix with a built-in lens, no filters, no tripod, etc. I use a milk jug as a diffuser and a couple of clip-on lamps for lighting. What I lack in high-end equipment, however, I (hopefully) make up for in my understanding of how to finesse the various settings and do post-production work in Photoshop.

Congrats on your purchase and I hope you have many years of enjoyment with it! Can't wait to see some new pictures...
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