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Silver 1854 1/2 Penny Bank Of Upper Canada

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 Posted 04/22/2015  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Faked for collectors market?

When weight, size, color, material are off, what does that leave? Is this normally a valuable coin, a good incentive to make fakes.
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 Posted 04/22/2015  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Low grade.

Scrap bullion value.

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 Posted 04/22/2015  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's too light to be silver or lead. With the weight I'd say pot metal and probably meant to be a fake. At the time, a halfpenny would buy a bit. It still looks plated to me anyway, regardles the base metal. You have an oddity but I suspect no numismatic value.
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 Posted 04/22/2015  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billfrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The proof of this token is made of copper,this one
my guess would be a home job
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 Posted 04/22/2015  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Osiris to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why not just get a half penny of the same type that's copper and weigh that?

I agree with having it XRF'd.

Otherwise, it's all speculation. I'm not sure how you're expecting a definitive answer from a low res photo of one side of the coin.
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 Posted 04/25/2015  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mgulas6203 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse for some reason did not come out, just blank, will try and take another picture.
However, if all of the coins were copper and this one is silver ( in colour, not plated ) what use or value would there be to make a fake coin. It would be like making a copper silver dollar. The difference would be apparent and be detected. Would a grading company be able to shed light on this coin.
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 Posted 04/25/2015  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
plated imo
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 Posted 04/25/2015  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on what has been written here, you will likely be wasting your money if you send it to a grading company. I am not sure which CCF members are the token experts, but if any of them have commented, that is likely as good as the response from the grading company. Alternatively you could try the library or purchase some of the token books for a bit of published help. If you can find some solid supporting information, then maybe send to a grading company.

If you recently purchased this, it might be worthwhile to contact the seller and share some of the concerns mentioned here, you may be able to work something out or escalate through PP/cc.

A picture of the other side would really help.
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 Posted 04/25/2015  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add McNickel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The reverse for some reason did not come out,


Just to clarify for you, the image you posted, that we can see, is the reverse. The obverse, St George slaying the dragon, is the side we can't see.

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 Posted 04/25/2015  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billfrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why do people counterfeit coins ,don't know.China is counterfeiting
these in copper. I haven't seen this listed in any catalogs in silver.
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 Posted 09/14/2015  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ainsivalavie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is one of my old tokens. And if that's the case, it's a fantasy token, probably in zinc or pewter, at least according with Specific Gravity (7.26g/cm3), and made with a homemade mold. Sorry for the disappointment.

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