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At Toning Or What ? And What About The Price Is It To Much

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 Posted 04/23/2015  6:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mycoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just happened to look at the ebay and seen this coin link below. To me this coin is 100% AT and the seller I am sure knows this.So why would he not say it in the listing. What do you people think

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1950-Canada-...em19fefd1151
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 Posted 04/23/2015  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
perhaps the seller doesn't know, ASSUMING IT IS AT. I wont comment anymore than that because the owner is a CCF member and I don't want to jeopardize relations or anything


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100% AT and the seller I am sure knows this


perhaps they will tell you if they do in fact know.
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 Posted 04/23/2015  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is my coin. I'm not an expert on toning but it's a very attractive piece. The line between "natural" and "artificial" toning can be a very fine one.

I've seen probable AT coins that I like, and NT coins that I really dislike. Ultimately it's up to the collector to decide if they like it or not. Some people don't like any sort of toning and will even dip their coins to make them "white" again. When something is dipped too many times, it will start to look dead and without lustre. Often resulting in a lower grade than one would expect. Like an MS64 into an AU58.

PS- thanks for the free plug, artdio :)
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 Posted 04/23/2015  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry Pokerman no harm meant just a simple question and observation. The signs of AT to me at least are very clear and yes perhaps a fine line but no disrespect meant. I myself own many toned beauties and am sure some are AT aswell but if I were selling one I would say so.

Once again Poker wrong person but your welcome if it helps you with your sale. Maybe we will meet on a sale some times. Are you fair on offers? ebay that is
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 Posted 04/23/2015  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I, too, don't think that it's natural. But I buy coins, not the descriptions. If you got it from an estate, thenthat's the way that it is.
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 Posted 04/24/2015  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bertensgrad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting toning a little over my $7 coin budget though ;)
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 Posted 04/24/2015  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It offends my eye----there is something about it----but I am no expert or have any experience---but it looks too Hollywood---sorry, I must turn away.
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Actually I think it's a very nice looking dollar. I would have no problem having that dollar as a addition to my silver dollar collection. The colors on the dollar are consistent with what you would find on a NT more so than the colors of a AT.
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 Posted 04/24/2015  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I find somewhat interesting is the "piece symbol" toning on the obverse of this dollar..

If there was "something purposely" laying on the obverse..with openings around..I could see that effect taking place..

I've seen a lot of choice dollars ..but none with that reverse colour. I'm sure that the "right atmospheric" conditions could possible do that.

I do have some from the early 70's that have great reddish/golden toning (very common in those years)..just none of the vibrant blur/green colours showing here..

Pretty(but strangely different)..but I've never seen this before..
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One of the toning experts on Morgan dollars would probably be able to decipher that toning properly. The thing is, you can have toning whereby the spectra of colour transition (birefringence) is all wrong, which is a dead giveaway. However, on this coin, the spectra looks fine.

For me, AT signifies that there was a direct intent to tone - something that you cannot prove here...
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 Posted 04/25/2015  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This has that I laid too close to a furnace or heat register look in a brown envelope look. My educated guess is some sort of sulpur exxposure in the past. That said I must agree with a previous poster that a lot of the time there is a fine line between original and AT.
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