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I know this subject comes up from time to time, but I have gotten very interested in the possibilities of this approach to coin collecting.

Here is what I have learned from scrolling around the net. Parrino, who first championed the idea, never said that all you can have is a box of 20 choice coins. It could be 25, 30, whatever seems reasonable to you. He also never said these were the only coins you own. If you're building a set of Morgans in AU-50, for example, that doesn't have to be in your "Box of 20".

But I very much like this idea of having a group of coins that are your choicest, highest grade, highest value coins. It keeps me from overspending (if the box is full and I buy a new one, one must go out). It seems to me it would help move your collection, slowly, to ever higher grades.

How many of you have tried this "Box of 20" idea? Is it working for you?
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 Posted 04/29/2015  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyJames to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the proposal is an idea said to make a point. I can't imagine that anyone who has a 25 coin collection has never owned more than 25 coins in their life. I think the 25 coin collection is something that is only achievable after many years of collecting and after developing a very defined sensibility. Even then it's not going to meet the collecting needs of most collectors.

I am working on several series that have more than 20 coins each, so I have no intention of ever having a collection that small. But the advice that these people give has led me to make sure I go by a few criteria before I add a coin to my collection.
-The coin is worth having: Does it contribute to my collection in a meaningful way? Is my collection decisively better with it rather than without it? When you have only 20 coins, each coin is essential and important.
-The coin is is a good example: Is the coin in the best condition I can reasonably afford? Am I buying it with the intention of replacing it with a better one later? Don't buy a coin knowing you want a different one instead. It's frivolous. Will other people recognize it as being worth keeping? For me coins more worn than F aren't good examples because they don't show the coin well as it was created. I would only use grades that low if it was the only option.

I sold 35 coins from my collection last month that don't contribute to anything I am actively working on and used that money to buy 4 coins that do. I am moving in that direction.

You want each coin in your collection to be meaningful and valuable (not necessarily financially). You want your collection to tell a story, and hopefully the story is beautifully illustrated.
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I like the sensibility behind that thinking. In my case - and as a Mod - I would apply that reasoning to how you choose to store the rest of your collection. Anything but your "favorites" need to be in long-term, protected storage which doesn't lend itself to pulling them to look at once a week.
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That seems reasonable. You can have as many sets going as you please. I intend to work on other sets too, but the "Box of 20" is seperate and apart from the other sets you are in th eprocess of assembling.

The "Box of 20" is only for your high end, rare pieces.
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I put one of those "box of twenty" together and it wound up being "the ones that got away", meaning that I sold most of them to pay for an unexpected bill.

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Interesting idea. Another thing to consider once my albums are finished. Yes, I want to finish those first. The only deviation I am allowing now is some current releases from mint that interest me, but there are so many interesting ideas out there tempting me.
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Same here jbuck. I have just started my Intercept Shield type set album and want to finish it first. I have decided to go with a "Box of 20" once I am done, but I will also work on a secondary set of some kind at the same time to diversify. The "Box of 20" will have to be built slowly as finances allow.
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The "Box of 20" will have to be built slowly as finances allow.
Agreed. I cannot imagine this box filling any faster than my Dansco 7070, and that has been going on 20 years!
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I hear you. It seems like every time I open that book another hole pops up!
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Well, I am down to five and two of those are going to really hurt my wallet.
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The "Box of 20" concept is a mentality, not a rigid number, which encourages buying quality over quantity. At one point, I had more than 500 coins, but realized I wasn't attached or enthralled by the vast majority of them.

I sold off all but three and used the funds to make a major shift into ancient coinage, now following the "Box of 20" mentality (although I will likely end up with 100+ coins when my collection is "complete").
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I only buy coins I can see, check out, look up and need. And only buy at coin shows so does not apply.
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Well, it would mean tossing out my 7070 type album, so I wouldn't really care for that idea. If it meant only having a 7070 album and eventually getting every slot filled with the highest grade coins possible, that might be doable.

Aside from my type album, however, I am actually trying to something like this. Once I filled my 7070 album and was reasonably satisfied with the quality of the coins in it, I decided to start putting together a collection of "special" coins that include key issues, proofs, etc. These are all coins that I am willing to pay more money for (compared to the coins in my 7070 album) and are all professionally graded. Not exactly 20 coins, but close:

Box of 20

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Thanks Barry.

Remember, the "Box of 20" idea does not mean getting rid of everything else. You don't have to give up anyhting you don't want to and you can keep other collections going at the same time. As for me, I am keeping my type set album when its eventually done because I like it.

The "Box of 20" is only you high grade collectable coins that keeps you from overspending and will eventually (so the theory goes)build up that "Box of 20" over time to be a real showpiece or high grade investment (if thats what you want).
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The "Box of 20" is only you high grade collectable coins that keeps you from overspending and will eventually (so the theory goes)build up that "Box of 20" over time to be a real showpiece or high grade investment (if thats what you want).


Well, that's what I'm working on then, I guess. Right now I have them split between two boxes, but that's only because the boxes are a little on the small side...
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I started collecting coins when I was fairly young, and the vast majority of my coins are low end pieces, and most of them are worth less than $5/each if not $1/each. (Circulated Indian heads, Buffalo nickels, lincoln cents make up the majority of my collection in terms of total coins). Other than a few pieces which carry either sentimental value or have a particular look that am fond of, I don't have a lot of attachment to these coins. Over the past few years I have purchased a few coins that were a little pricier and I would say I have 4 or 5 pieces that would go toward a box of 20 concept. I do like the concept a lot, and am trying to gear more and more toward quality over quantity.
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