1783 8 Reales -- Shipwreck Salvage - Coin Community Forum

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Arkie Pillar of the Community United States 2637 Posts	Posted 05/06/2015 12:19 am Purchased raw. Real (no pun intended)? 24.5 mm, 21.3 g. Report this Post to the Staff

X2an Pillar of the Community Sweden 1078 Posts	Posted 05/06/2015 03:52 am Am I completely wrong if I say 8 reales pieces should be closer to 37mm in diameter? Report this Post to the Staff
publius Pillar of the Community United States 807 Posts	Posted 05/06/2015 04:06 am Circa 38 mm and 27 grams would be correct. Some kinds of corrosion proceed in such a way as to leave features intact, but I can't see how that could happen to this extent. 24.5 mm would be smaller than a 2 reales piece (it's about the size of a current US quarter), which would require an uncommon thickness to reach 21 g. I might believe 34.5 mm. Report this Post to the Staff
Numismat Pillar of the Community United States 1666 Posts	Posted 05/06/2015 05:29 am Judging by the year, most likely from the El Cazador wreck. Report this Post to the Staff
Arkie Pillar of the Community United States 2637 Posts	Posted 05/06/2015 08:54 am Someday I will learn how to read my caliper. It is the same diameter as a Peace dollar. Report this Post to the Staff
MathieuMa Pillar of the Community France 1591 Posts	Posted 05/06/2015 5:18 pm The rim I see means fake : you can see a seam just in the middle, and the pattern is not correct anyway . Report this Post to the Staff
Arkie Pillar of the Community United States 2637 Posts	Posted 05/06/2015 7:37 pm Seam is not visible in hand under a 10x loupe. As for the pattern, I have no knowledge. Report this Post to the Staff
MathieuMa Pillar of the Community France 1591 Posts	Posted 05/07/2015 04:02 am That seam I saw could be a scanner artifact, maybe . Swamperbob / Robert, are you around ? Edited by MathieuMa 05/07/2015 04:02 am Report this Post to the Staff
colonialjohn Pillar of the Community United States 1757 Posts	Posted 05/07/2015 08:11 am Interesting on these whenever its 1783 I never bother to see if its a fake. XRF on these normally reads silver at 98-99% with at times all the copper being leached out. I had some read 99% silver. Kool. For other years and on certain pieces I have found (v.rarely) tin issues being suspected as shipwreck pieces. Not here IMO. As most of you know the coin ring disappears normally for these types at this level of salt water corrosion. Nice piece. JPL Report this Post to the Staff
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