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Strange Thing Stamped On This Coin

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I joined this site because I wanted to understand this. How could this happen?

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 Posted 05/11/2015  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Counterstamped outside of the mint. Some people collect these, but overall, they are damaged after minting.
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That counterstamp was probably put there when Ron Paul was running for the Presidency in 2012. Other than as a novelty, it is considered a damage coin now.
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How could this happen?


this was caused by some one with a punch stamping the nickel, this is technically damage which in most cases destroys all if any numismatic (collector value) although in this case the regular coin would be worth 5 cents but in this case the stamp made the coin worth a couple dollars as a curiosity.
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It's a neat find. Cointerstamps can exceed the value of the host coin many times over. Google: mel wacks counterstamp. Folks collect these. I like your find!
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Nothing special. No value over 5 cents. Spend it and let your LCS get calls.
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to CCF. It is a counterstamped coin that most collectors consider PMD. There are some folks who do collect them.
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There are counterstamp collectors and someone would likely pay a couple bucks for this one. Cool find.

edit: just found this on ebay - 99 cents plus whatever shipping was:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-JEFFER...047675.l2557

Does yours have the second stamp?
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I would think there are some coin guys out there who like ron Paul and would pay a premium for a counterstamp like that imo
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It's also a historical coin. Value may come out of it in later years?

I think it is a pretty cool find. It's a shame the year on the coin is not 1988, 2008, or 2012.
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Interesting and collectible, but no more than face value, unfortunately. I have a few post Mint privately counterstamped coins.
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I would like to see the reverse. It is probably flattened in that area opposite the counterstamp. But it would be more creative if it had a different one on the reverse that were done at the same time. It would be a cheap way of advertising.
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I'd be a buyer for something like this today at around $2. I'm sure there are others that would pay more. A most appropriate coin for a political ad considering Ron Paul and Jefferson where both "Hard Money" men.
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But it would be more creative if it had a different one on the reverse that were done at the same time. It would be a cheap way of advertising.

Unfortunately for the advertiser also illegal.
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Conder101, It is only illegal if there is an intent to circulate the coin as money. There is really no proof of this and all considered, (Jefferson and Paul both being hard money men), I doubt there ever was such an intent. It looks like a souvenir from a rally. The bottom line is the government would have to show proof of intent. I doubt they could.
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