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1943 Steel Cent... W/ REV Die Cracks

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 Posted 05/16/2015  10:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This gem beauty was under a literal mountain of wheaties. Check out all the die cracking on the reverse! Is this commonly seen on steelies? Also, any premium and do MS steels have any real value in general?

Ps, these things are harder than proofs to photo well!

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 Posted 05/16/2015  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's difficult to find them in that condition. Steelies are fairly common. My guess for this one would be a few dollars.
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 Posted 05/16/2015  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS65 can bring 20 dollars. Hard to tell if VLDS or replated.
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I suspect this one might be Reprocessed. Here is a set of 1943 Steel cents that were all reprocessed; zinc plating stripped off with acid and replanted. Some of them have a granular surface as seen in your third photo down.
Reprocessed Cents are created to make otherwise non-collectable (rust, milk spots, etc.) coins of commercial value to marketer who sell them to non-collectors as items of "Historical Interest". I could be dead wrong too! Just a gut feeling.

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BTW, superficial die cracks can show up on EDS, MDS, etc. The ones on your coin are so shallow that the Mint could easily polish all or most of them out before the die want terminally ill!

Your coin is far from being in LDS. It's an earlier die state (early to early-mid).
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Thanks for the info ken, I was thinking vlds because of all the cracks and what looks like flow lines and such. I've heard of plated steels. I'll look closer at it and try to get some better pics. It shows up black in pics unless taken at a coin bleaching angle
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Try shooting with less light and/or diffused lighting. Or use axial lighting bounced off of a piece of glass held at a 45 degree angle (or so) over the coin. To do this to best effect you need to create a shadow over the coin. I do this by folding a piece of thin cardboard so that it had a lip of about four inches, placing the long end in a book with the lip up at a 90 degree and shooting the coin on a piece of grey card-stock set on top of the book. Hide the coin in the shadow of the lip of the card, set your light very low and catch it with the glass to bounce it down. For clarity, you will be shooting through this glass (take it from a picture frame and tape the edges so you don't get cut) so it needs to be cleaned regularly. You may get something out of the article I wrote for Coin World on coin photography in 1999. Much of what is written here has changed due to significant advances in technology but the basics are the same.
http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/...Warticle.htm

BTW, don't be afraid to try different techniques. I often abandon axial lighting and use two lamps set high on either side of the copy stand. This is sometimes the better choice.
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I thought reprocessed when I saw the coin too. Looks like Ken saw it before I did
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Thanks ken, I follow your consept and will try it later today
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I thought reprocessed when I saw the coin too. Looks like Ken saw it before I did


This jumped out at me too. MS coins often have a light gray look to them.
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Quote:
I thought reprocessed when I saw the coin too. Looks like Ken saw it before I did


Looks like I suggested it before him too.
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I agree it is too shiny to not be reprocessed. Here is a high grade coin:
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Not the lack of luster? That is what they should look like. Plating them makes them shiny.
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