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1888 $10, AU Or MS? (Grade Revealed)

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 Posted 05/20/2015  2:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Willem2904 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,

I have a beautiful 1888 $10 Liberty coin, with extremely nice details (look at the claws of the Eagle or the arrows for example), which in most if not ALL MS63 coins I have seen are in much worse state.

I have checked out some auctions where AU58 coins looked much better than the highest grade for this coin (being MS63).
Now my question to you is:
Do you think the following coin is MS or AU?

1888-$10,-AU-Or-MS?-Grade-Revealed

1888-$10,-AU-Or-MS?-Grade-Revealed

Thanks in advance!

PS: I'll send it to NGC/PCGS soon, so I will find out about it in a couple of weeks, but I am just curious about your thoughts :)

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 Posted 05/20/2015  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU coins normally have dull luster. Yours appears to have nice luster so I would say it's an MS coin.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willem2904 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are 2 more pictures, taken from a slightly different angle.

1888-$10,-AU-Or-MS?-Grade-Revealed

1888-$10,-AU-Or-MS?-Grade-Revealed
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 Posted 05/20/2015  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin has the look of a slider that is likely an honest AU55 or 58 and as such would need strong luster to go with its good strike to "market-grade" as MS. The obverse fields seem to have impaired luster - now how impaired they really are can't be determined by the images. I've seen similar pieces grade 62, that's for sure.
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 Posted 05/20/2015  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thundercoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell if there is *hint* of wear or not. I would say AU-58.
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I'm horrible with these, but imo, I see some luster, and will throw an MS60 in the ring.
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I'd call it low MS. Nice.
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MS61 or MS62 seems about right, let us know how the coin des after PCGS looks it over.
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Very close to MS, but not quite IMO. AU-58.
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Low MS or High AU
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Perfect slab for a ms60 imo
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 Posted 05/21/2015  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willem2904 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your input everyone.
I will share the result in a couple of weeks.

The reason of my confusion is the following series of pictures.
It looks like the AU58 has brighter luster than the MS60 and MS62

AU58
1888-$10,-AU-Or-MS?-Grade-Revealed

MS60
1888-$10,-AU-Or-MS?-Grade-Revealed

MS61
1888-$10,-AU-Or-MS?-Grade-Revealed

MS62
1888-$10,-AU-Or-MS?-Grade-Revealed
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 Posted 05/21/2015  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdiablo30 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While it has a tad bit more luster. All those marks and gouges take it down to the Au level it has been graded. Where abouts the higher graded one shows less luster,but still retains a lot of details without all those baggy marks and gouges everywhere. Your coin is a perfect candidate for a 60+slab.
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 Posted 05/22/2015  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willem2904 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for your thoughts.
I will let you know the result in a few weeks :)
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Please post the grade to this thread, and you can do "Report Post" to that post or the first post to have the moderators add "(grade revealed )" to the title.
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 Posted 06/11/2015  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willem2904 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And the result is.... MS-60 :-)
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