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Edited by Agrippa
05/27/2015 11:45 pm
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I know the close up pictures are rough, but it's the best I can do with an iPhone and a handheld loop.....
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Pillar of the Community
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This image is compliments of Coop.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Some of this looks like the doubling in the Master Die that appeared in 1959 and continued into 1960. Shown here is the reverse of two different 1959 cents. I just pulled a roll of 1959-D/D/D/D CONECA RPM-009 cents and they have it too. I also pulled a roll of 1960-D/D Sm/Lg date cents and found none had it in the Stage 4 roll but when I pulled another roll of mixed stages I found it showed there too. I was unable to find it on 1961-64 cents. Still, some of what I see on your coin has that look.  Edited by koinpro
05/28/2015 12:40 am
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Oh, okay cool. Nice find, or is it? If it's Die Deterioration isn't it of little interest? Also how can it improve with a later die stage? Edited by CoinMasters
05/28/2015 12:24 am
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Edited by koinpro
05/28/2015 12:53 pm
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Got it, thanks Koinpro. My slow typing doesn't help. Nice find, Agrippa. Sorry I missed the good parts on your coin.
Edited by CoinMasters
05/28/2015 12:56 am
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So, I'm a little confused. Is this a DDR or is it MD or does it have both? If it is DDR, any idea which listing it is? |
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Bedrock of the Community
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What you are looking at is machine damage on those devices. Not hub doubling. Your first thought of my words were correct. Devices are reduced from machine damage.
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Yes, Koinpro and Coop, evidently my reading yesterday wasn't any better than my slow typing. It is clearly MD .
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Agripppa, when the die is damaged or worn, the metal on the planchet flows into the worn areas at the time of the strike. That is what "reduced" the size of the devices. That is what is called MD, which is Machine Doubling. It is on your coin and is worthless. The "shelf-like" doubling you mentioned, occurs when the die strikes the coin more than once. It is basically a "double stamp" with one strike partially overlapping the shelf-like doubling. It is also worthless. Both can be called Strike Doubling, as the doublings occurred at the time of the strike. On the sought after Doubled Die, the doubling is already on the die itself- before the strike. At the time of the strike, it is imparted on the coin- increasing the overall size of the devices. Look at the picture I gave you. I hope this clears it up for you. |
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Thanks for correcting my post Coop. You are right, I should have mentioned die wear often increases the size of the devices. You might notice my reference to stamping was in quotation marks, as my entire post was in an effort to help Agrippa. He had indicated he was having trouble with various doublings.
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