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Lincoln - U Vs PCGS

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 Posted 12/26/2007  11:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Another great example, please don't be shy or embarrassed. I'll post the answer soon. This is NOT my coin, but just for fun! Remember, this is a practice forum.



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 Posted 12/26/2007  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS 63 to MS 64
I see hit in the hair, forehead, front of forehead, way ahead of the forehead and in the back below N and between the wheat stalks and some obverse spotting.
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 Posted 12/27/2007  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Knowing PCGS...probably 63RB.
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 Posted 12/27/2007  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bad, I agree with Prethen on this one. I could see going 62. As mentioned, there is a lot going on.
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 Posted 12/27/2007  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If PCGS graded it I would say MS-63rb but if I were the last grader at PCGS I would give it an MS-64rb
it only 1 point but it counts!!
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everything that I have seen from PCGS for lincolns lately has been over graded .

Im thinking 65 RB on this coin ,,techniquely the coin is an above average strike for the date ,,and has nice eye appeal ,, although I disagree with my own grade I have given for this coin LOL in my collection this coin would be gem 63 RB.

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quote:
everything that I have seen from PCGS for lincolns lately has been over graded .


Except the one I sent them.

I'm going to agree with Metalman on the "reality" grade of 63RB, and I'll bet based on my own experience that PCGS saw it that way too.
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I was going to put my guess in then I found it on ebay, I would have been real low.
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There are a few hits, but the strike is fairly full..... I'll go ms64 RB.
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The answer amazes me:



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quote:
everything that I have seen from PCGS for lincolns lately has been over graded .


and the trend continues !



all I can say is I'm glad I graded it right !
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1st, amazing.

2nd, face it Dave, they just don't like you.
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MS66? RD? And forever will this nice ms64 RB coin reside in that holder........buy the coin, not the holder. Sadly though, someone will end up buying the holder.
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66? No way.
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After seeing this coin, I think I have a couple that might have a shot at MS69!
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Thad I have always and still do believe that the TPG's have exceeded their scope of worth and attempt (successfully) I might add in some cases to manipulate the population of the grades in certian years across all denominations .

Dave's coin is a perfect example "I know what that coin deserved as a grade" ! someone somewhere who is probably a top submitter who has a top pop coin in their registry set would have lost big bucks by adding a coin that actually scored as high or higher grade wise .

which is why I refuse to play the TPG game ! The registry set program was and is one of the worst things that ever happened to this hobby second only to the dumbing down of the hobby with the advent of plastic grades .

I know collectors who could not grade a PO-1 coin and get it right,, because they rely solely on the plastic to tell them what they have .

Its sad !

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