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Ummm medal is 180, 360 is a confused coin !  |
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 ... I know it's kinda existential guys, it's just funny food for thought. I just wonder how many say 10° rotations are actually 370° with the die rotating over a full 360° from when it was set. |
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From 1990 to 2000 there have been a number of clashed dies listed as MAD Die Clashes. It is thought these happened durring their installation into the press when the installer dropped the hammer die onto the anvil die leaving an odd totally unoriented clash in odd places.
So if the dies are installed by hand then spinnig past 360 degrees would have just been a fumble of the hand.
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Wait, they think that somebody dropping a die is what causes clashes?
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My mistake; got the flip wrong in my head.  One of the many...not the few. |
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DoubleManFlats , the rotation isn't enough to add any premium value to your coin -- but it's still a nice little rotation and it was the first one you ever found, so give it a good home and enjoy!
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SD , only Radical MAD clashes are thought to happen this way because they are so very far out of alignment .Once the dies are installed in the presses , mechanically these clashes could not happen
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SD , only Radical MAD clashes are thought to happen this way because they are so very far out of alignment .Once the dies are installed in the presses , mechanically these clashes could not happen
I see; makes more sense put that way. Except for the part where dropping a die equates to the 150 tons of press pressure which is what a clash usually requires. |
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I sure wouldn't mind meeting some of you guys at a coin show some day. You guys hold such a vast knowledge on coins. It's amazing! Thank You.
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SD , I guess it's similar to the shocking amount of damage that the edge of a car door can do to the side of another car. The MAD clash seems to happen when the dies meet at an angle to each other. Here is the only one I have found so far , MDC-1c-1998-04 http://www.maddieclashes.com/mdc-1c-1998-04/ Edited by stoneman227
06/06/2015 09:12 am
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DoubleMan, l think I know just enough to get myself into trouble that I don't know how to get out of !  |
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LOL on the 360 :)
I mean't that in order to make a coins reverse into
a medals reverse.
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Quote:Here is the only one I have found so far , MDC-1c-1998-04 http://www.maddieclashes.com/mdc-1c-1998-04/ I should probably admit that nobody will ever successfully accuse me of believing that maddieclashes engages in appropriate academic rigor for what they publish. That's not a clash, and I cannot imagine the intellectual gymnastics it would take to believe it is. It has two distinct sides and does not have the radius of the feature they claim is transferred. That feature - the edge of the die - would be a dropoff into nothingness on one side because there is no metal to touch the other die. And unfortunately, that "nothingness" would have been on the lower side of the feature, where the demarcation here is the strongest. The sharp part of the hit would need to be the left/upper side of the feature for their claim to be true. The die is so old it's ghosting. Why would they be handling it mid-run? If this coin had been posted here with no accompanying information we'd probably be universal in calling it a die gouge. And we'd be right. I won't go so far as to say I disbelieve everything that place publishes, but I do not trust their standards of scholarship. |
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