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1682 US Colonial Coin?

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I do believe I hit the motherload at a yard sale yesterday!

I found this among the hundreds of other REALLY AWESOME coins I bought. The research I did lead me to this site:

http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/...6-duid-11645

This is the EXACT coin that I have. I'm looking for potential authenticity and value. I have uploaded images of my coin.

Cheers!

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 Posted 06/06/2015  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Next time, please use the CCF image optimizer or your favorite image editing program to remove the blank area around the coin.
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 Posted 06/06/2015  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too small to tell....hopefully someone can authenticate
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 Posted 06/06/2015  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how much did it cost?
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A lady on one of my local yard sale FB pages was selling a gallon size ziplock bag FULL of coins. I couldn't resist. There were LOTS of cool old coins from around the world, including US coins. I'm still going through the Asian coins and I haven't even gotten to the train and tax tokens yet! She was asking $100 but I felt guilty and paid her $200. It was SO worth it. I think I might even have a 1955/55 Wheat penny.

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Real ones are .920 silver and weigh approx. 5.6 to 5.7g, a full planchet is ~24mm across. Yours looks like a cast copy to me (lead or pewter.) The copies are made even to this day and are silver-plated lead. Also, the originals had reeded edges, to the best of my knowledge, to discourage clipping or rounding.

The silver-plated lead weighs close to the original but is 10% or so denser. Also, silver coins have a distinctive "ring" to them when lightly struck with another metal object (carefully, not to scratch); silver plated or raw cast coins don't ring, they make a lower pitched "click" noise that sounds like someone weakly tapping an iron nail with a hammer.

A (very) old-timer's field trick was to use a wide graduated 10-20ml beaker filled to a level high enough to cover the coin with mineral oil or olive oil. Silver weights of equivalent weight to the (known genuine) coin to be tested were dropped in, and the rise in the level of the base of the meniscus was marked; the shot or weights were removed, the oil level was readjusted if needed and the questionable coin was lowered in, and the level marked again. If the item was lead its mark would be above the silver mark; copper, nickel, tin, bronze, and brass would be below the silver mark. Genuine silver examples, the mark would be almost identical to the "test" weight mark.

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Thank you for the info.
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 Posted 06/07/2015  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elimist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would recommend posting a nice picture of the possible 55 doubled die. That would be an awesome find.
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 Posted 06/07/2015  05:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a copy of a St Patrick farthing. While there is an extremely rare variation in silver, most are copper with a brass splasher on the crown. Please post pics of some of the other coins.
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I think you'll find this is a die match for the reproduction made by the most prominent replica-maker of early American coinage, Peter Rosa of Becker Reproductions. His dies from the 1960s are still being used by coinreplicas.com:
https://www.coinreplicas.com/st-pat...thing-1678-5
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Thank you Philidelphian! Your site was quite helpful. I do believe this is the coin that I have. While not an original, it's still a great find in my opinion.

Thanks again!
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Elemist and SilverStackerKid...this is for you.

My "stash"....


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And now for the piez de resistance....I know the pic quality sucks. My digital camera is in the shop so I'm having to use my iPad.


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Cheers!
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Yeah, St. Patrick repro - the original certainly is an interesting coin, and your decent reproduction is a fun thing to have for sure!
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The pics of the 1955 could be better, of course, but they're still good enough to tell it's not the Double Die. You'd know if you had one:

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Wait... She was asking $100 but you paid $200?

PLEASE come shopping at my yard sale!
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 Posted 06/08/2015  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like your stash
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