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1948 Dollar "Full Repunched Date"

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-Canadi...em567610361b

Is this a real variety? I've never heard of it. Seems more like Machine Doubling. What's up with the second L? Reverse looks like it was struck through mud.

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Reverse looks like it was struck through mud.


Probably because it was not produced at the Royal Canadian Mint...
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I agree with Machine Doubling as it has that shelf or ledge in the doubling. IMO
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SPP, I wasn't ready to go that far, but the rim does have an odd line all the way around, in both obv and rev photos.
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Chinese-made counterfeit.
The second L in DOLLAR gives it away.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Looks like a counterfeit to me as well.
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Thanks for editing DBM. I think when people say "counterfeit" they need to say why. Seller seems reputable. One of their other listings, 1938 dollar, has the same mushy appearance and is ICCS, so some of this may be just the photos.
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Overall mushy appearance. The numbers in the date are mis-shapen and jagged rather than round.
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very obvious fake
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It's a known counterfeit variety. The L is one clear marker as is a chip above the front paddler (as I recall).
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Wow. ......I paid 800....will remove item shortly when get home..........will also send it into ICCS for confirmaction.....please tell forum folks that I'm very Sry

I'm kind of sorry too - I originally thought this might be an interesting variety discussion instead.
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And... the 8 is not right either.
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obvious fake, hard to tell from the pics but it looks like the obverse initials are HD.
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Not even one of the better counterfeits.
The "EH" is missing below the rear of the canoe.
I have shown this before, but compare to known counterfeit.

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The counterfeits are getting better. I recently had someone bring in some Carson city Morgans that were very close to weight and looked great and were non magnetic. The slide magnet test proved no silver content as they were indeed fake. I believe this version of the 48 is significantly lighter at around 19 grams so I'm a bit surprised that it wasn't caught. That's enough difference to feel in hand even without looking at detail. Anyone can be fooled, more than the average amount of due diligence should be done when buying coins at that price. People who sell these depend on you having stars and dollar signs of profit in your eyes. The price it just expensive enough so it looks legit but cheap enough to look like a deal.
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