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Chinese Cash Coins Fake Again ?

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bought these coins and others as a job lot , just wondering if I got dudded again , any help with id really appreciated regards davidc , mossy point , australia , bottom right coin appears to be silver or silver color any thoughts regards davidc

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 Posted 06/16/2015  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They look OK from the pictures, both the cast and struck examples.
I have bought lots of cash coins (200+, most emperors), on appearance alone. If you don't know how to spot fakes of these, (and I am not an expert), OK to buy if the price is reasonably low.
Almost ALL of my purchases of these, later opined by an experienced dealer to be genuine.
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cheers they just looked a bit shiny and all the ones you see in catalogs have verdis etc regards davidc, bottom right one appears to be silver or silver coloured with no markings on the back any thoughts?
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I would like to see the fronts of the two rightmost coins before I declare that they all look authentic.

The two on the left are worth about $3 each; these were made by a mechanical coin press after 1880. The three middle ones are very common and look cleaned, making them worth $0.50 or less. I can't comment about the other two, but if they are real, they are pre-1644. If the bottom right one is silver in color, it is either fake or made of lead. There is a 0.00000001% chance that it is an authentic silver coin.

If you want complete attributions, we will need to see both sides of all of the coins.
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The two on the left appear to be genuine machine-struck cash, probably the Kwangtung Province issues. You should find them listed there in the Krause catalogue.

The three in the middle appear to be genuine Qian Long cash coins.

I can't tell what the one at top right is. And if the one at bottom right has no markings on either side, then it's not a genuine coin. It's probably a piece of funeral money, made to be thrown into the fire as an offering to the spirits and ancestors.
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Chinese-Cash-Coins-Fake-Again--? I think these are the images of the other side of the coins , so far very interesting stuff , thanks every one
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sorry about all the pictures, can't work out how to delete the copies hopefully here abouts is the other side of the coin thanks davidc
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 Posted 06/16/2015  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, but all those pictures are all exactly the same sides of each of the coins.

If you're downloading two pictures to CCF on the same day and they both have the same filename on your computer (like "0001.jpg"), the second file will over-write and replace the first one on the CCF server.

I can delete all the duplicates for you, once we have a second picture.
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thanks again, down loaded two new pictures , the ones with two blank reverses , can you see them? can you delete the duplicates, slowly getting the hang of this regards davidc
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They all look perfectly authentic to me - though common coins as has been indicated. The one with the crescent nail mark is potentially the most interesting.
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Both coins, which were originally on the right are most likely Vietnamese. However, it is hard to say, which are exactly, without looking at observe side of the coins
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