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Hi Trout , well I only have a couple that are slabbed and mine open up easily ? I thought that was normal. I have checked the coin and it certainly looks like the coin on the website that was graded. I shall take a look at the others I have. I just thought that's how they were.?. I can post a pic of it opened if you like. Ouch  If they can be opened and closed with ease then they are definitely "Basement Slabs", take whatever grade is on them with a dose of salt Mate. I strongly advise you NOT to buy any more of those shockers  The major TPG's sonically seal the slabs so that they cannot be "Interfered " with Edited by trout1105
07/12/2015 06:24 am
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I would advise that you pass on the coin in question due to the Klaus Ford Provenance due to a number of reasons as he is well known due to his 'reputation.' This would be valid unless the coin was slabbed by PCGS or NGC prior to purchase and the coin was not Detailed.
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No worries trout, I just checked them and yes your right , the others don't open only the APCGS slab opens and it is definately made to open as it has a small slot in the bottom to unclip it. My others NCG - PCGS don't open. Hmm never realised that before. I will post a pic of it for you if you like. I really like the coin that is in the slab that opens though. it has a real nice look to it even though its been used and isn't a special year.  |
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You can open PCGS/NGC slabs with a hammer if you want to crack a coin open.
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Why am I NOT supprised it was the APCGS slab that could be "tampered" with. |
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Funny though that someone sees ability of APCGS slabs to open easily as anything interesting and advantageous. The biggest benefit of authentic slab is that you CANNOT open it and replace the coin. What a joke really, to open the slab and extract the coin )))
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I don't know if you would call it tampered with trout as it is actually specifically made to be opened , and very easy to , small pocket knife or thin blade insert twist it unclips. I actually like the idea but I also understand what your saying as well.
I have check the coin and it is most definitely the coin that was graded and is on the site. Perfect match but I think it is actually graded to low but hey I am not the expert. It just looks better to me than what the grade suggests which I thought was strange for APCGS. As I have been told they over grade mostly.
Well you learn something all the time. This was the first slabbed coin I ever bought and just thought it was how they were. I have no other APCGS slabs only this one. Like I said I am not that keen on slabbed coins but I understand to that something like a 1930 penny needs all the protection it can get. Thanks Trout , I learned something hehehe.
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I don't know if you would call it tampered with trout as it is actually specifically made to be opened , and very easy to , small pocket knife or thin blade insert twist it unclips. I actually like the idea but I also understand what your saying as well.
UNBLOODYBEIVEABLE A specially designed slab that allows a coin to be removed and replaced at will NO wonder this mob is NOT held in high regard by serious collectors in Aus  Edited by trout1105
07/14/2015 06:20 am
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There was a 1937 Crown on ebay Oz. last week,graded as 1938 by APCGS,and the owner was selling as an error hoping to get a premium.Not sure what happened to it. |
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Now that's a bit strange Basil. I would not call a typo/print error on a slab a error coin, I wounder if its been removed and the 37 put in its place. This is exactly what Trout was on about coin swapping. After all a 38 Crown is worth a heck of a lot more than a 37 crown. Makes one wounder. Do you have the ebay number or anything I would love to take a look and check it out on there website to see if it is an actual mistake. If it is a mistake its a real dumb one. |
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life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Isn't it wonder full how the seller was able to take those images outside the slab  Some poor Sap has paid $170 for a pretty average 1937 Crown. |
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Hehehe you really love these easy to open slabs trout don't you. (not)  I just checked there website and its listed as a 37 crown and was graded as a 37 crown. Maybe this is the first case of tampering you were on about Trout. Not the coin but an easy to reprint label. Yes Trout a average 1937 coin for way to much. It made AU50 which for 170 clams isn't a good deal in my book . I have seen some pretty nice 37 crowns go for much less. But Trout I as an Honest person love the ability to open it , but I do understand your concerns and this highlighted it. Coin swapping coin handling future tarnish etc from incorrect handling  and this the possibility to actually change the print and the out come. Im not saying the guy did, it may well be a APCGS print error. But your concerns are definitely highlighted buy this event.  |
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Hi Eric
If what you are saying is correct, and I hope it is, then I can't explain some of the slabs I've seen.
Prime example was a 1920 1/2 penny, 6 pearls, hint of 7. was graded as MS62. Had clear wear and was said to be uncirculated.
I have no idea how that came to be. (And no it was not an APCGS slab.)
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07/15/2015 10:54 pm
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Australia
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Hi Peter S Thomas,
PCGS has graded 30 million coins. It's very easy to pick out the odd coin and use it to suggest that PCGS doesn't know what they're doing. But the facts are that thousands of collectors all over the world prefer and use PCGS for their valuable coins. There's no reason their opinions are any less valid than yours.
Eric
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