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1929-P AU Wheat Cent: DDR?

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G'day, Coin Community!

SCROLL DOWN TO SEE THE NEW (2nd) POTENTIAL DDR!
I'd seriously appreciate your input!



Today I bring to you an interesting little Lincoln. I picked up an AU/BU roll of 1929-P Lincoln Wheat Cents and have been searching for errors & varieties. This is the first coin which immediately stuck out to me as looking significantly different.

Observe the size of the dots on "E Pluribus Unum". Note the spread of the devices, including the letters and wheat stems. I don't see any information online for a coin that looks *quite* like this. In fact, I can't find a single page that has more than two listings for potential doubled dies on the 1929-P Lincoln Wheat cent. I really, really wish I could provide epic HD photos of coins, but alas I am restricted to a cellphone camera. Would you be willing to assess the coin's grade? There are many in similar condition to this from the roll. I suspect it's the upper end of AU? Grace me with your wisdom!

Here's the best information page I've found so far: http://doubleddie.com/792260.html

Here are DIRECT LINKS to the files, in case you can't see the pics properly!

Obverse: http://postimg.org/image/ld27ijpfb/
Reverse: http://postimg.org/image/kc1ytf8fr/

Here's the images of my coin!:

1929-P-AU-Wheat-Cent:-DDR?
1929-P-AU-Wheat-Cent:-DDR?
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06/20/2015 09:02 am
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Could be just me but pics not loading
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Those pics. look fine. I do not see a DDR though.
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Right click on pic. icon and choose view.
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That is a very nice looking coin.
I agree with the others, I don't see any doubling either.
I think it would probably grade better than AU. I hope you are using care handling these coins.
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Shnug,
Need to fix pics, I can't see them.
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Oh my, what is wrong? I can see them when I browse the thread very large and clear. You may need to click them in order for them to show up? I'll fool around with it immediately and see what's awry.

Edit: I can't determine what is wrong for you guys, but I have added direct links to the original post so that you can see the original images in their full glory

For the record, I can see no evidence of "doubling" except for on the lower right wheat stem, and what I believe to be doubling can be attributed to the extra thick lettering, the extra thick dots, and the extra thick wheat stems RELATIVE to every other unciruclated specimen I've got.

Edit #2: I'm surprised at the notion that this could be considered an uncirculated coin despite the finger print and spotting. This is the quality of the average coin in the roll; I may have done better than I thought
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The fingerprint does hurt it some.
If you have multiples, would you consider doing some trading?
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It kinda looks like WDDR-002, but I'm having trouble finding the die markers with the pictures.
Here is a link to the 1929 DDR's http://doubleddie.com/792260.html
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ChildOfTheWheat, those were my thoughts precisely. The die markers ARE NOT present as described on that page, which I actually included in my original post, on this coin!
It's incredibly similar with its spread of the various devices, and there is no trace of MD or Die Deterioration!

Cwb, I would be more than happy to trade win-win with you. Send me a PM!
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Touch screens don't have a right click !
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Now I can see , very nice class VI DDR ! Congrats!
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Are there any good references you folks may recommend regarding learning about the various "classes" of doubled dies?
I'm quite interested in this, because traditionally in my mind the term "doubled" does not signify added thickness, but rather twice-visible details offset by a very small distance.
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http://doubleddie.com/58222.html

If you scroll down a bit you will find some links explaing the types of doubling.
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Hello again, everybody. Searching through the remainder, I believe there is ONE more coin that has a potential DDR. This one is much more subtle, but still class VI in style and effect. The dots on "E . Pluribus . Unum" appear to be stretched, much larger than a normal reverse which I will post as well. I'd rather not start a new topic, so if you folks can continue your input which I highly value and appreciate, I'd be thankful! I did check out those resources, Stoneman227 + ChildOfTheWheat, and learned much. Thank you.

Here's a link to the image gallery which contains photos of the suspect's obverse / reverse:
http://postimg.org/gallery/p7qg2xoe/

Here's a picture of the obverse OF THE SUSPECT (You may need to "right click --> view image"):
1929-P-AU-Wheat-Cent:-DDR?

Here's a picture of the reverse OF THE SUSPECT (You may need to "right click --> view image"):
1929-P-AU-Wheat-Cent:-DDR?

Here's a picture of the reverse OF A NORMAL COIN (You may need to "right click --> view image"):
1929-P-AU-Wheat-Cent:-DDR?
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