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Ok here is the first 1970 S Penny is this Small date or large?  and here is the 2nd 1970 S Penny, LD or SD?  |
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Here's what "A Guide to Lincoln Cents" says about small and large dates:
Large Date: Thinner space between digits. Inside of 0 larger. Top of 7 below 9 and 10. Top of 0 comes to a point. Bottom of 7 comes to a point. LIBERTY has clear, distinct letters.
Small Date: More space between digits. Inside of 0 smaller. Top of 7 even with top of 9 and 10. Top of 0 well-rounded; bottom of 7 is squared. LIBERTY usually has mushy letters with the TY much weaker.
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J, from what I understand, the top coin is a large date and the bottom appears to be a small date.
The loop on the 9 is supposedly diagnostic. If the loop is tall and the end of the loop squared and points below the seven, it is a large date. If the loop is wide and the end pointed and points more toward the center of the seven it is a small date. The other diagnostic points mentioned also help confirm.
Jim
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 Both LD Michael |
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What are the odds of getting a smalldate from circulation?
were they regular coins for circulation , or from mint sets ?
thanks.
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The two 1970-S varieties were both in circulation but the odds of finding the small date in present circulation are incredibly small.
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When the "Cent Project" os finished, and the results published, it will be confirmed. There could be a coupls of surprises, as well. Some of the coins in circulation "just fon't seem to be there" in accordance with publisheed mint reportsd.
Dick
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I am willing to bet that there will be a LOT of mistakes made on the 70S by folks in the Cent Project. I had about 25 70S (from a $50 box of pennies from California area) and some had higher 7 vs level 7 compared to the 0; some had squared of tip of 9, some pointed 9. Some had weak liberty, some strong.
Coppercoins said that the key diagnostic is a crease in the 7 is large date, no crease is small date. However, it is very hard to tell this, even with magnification, on a coin that is worn down. I had some 70S in my group that had no apparent crease in the 7 because the 7 was worn down too much and yet they were clearly large date. I used a combination of these and other criteria and I don't believe any of my 25 or 70S are small date. I tossed all mine back into circulation.
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The crease is visible all the way down to the point where the digit meets the field...so it should be visible on any coin. Short of that, the inside point of the 9 is shaped differently where it meets the field, so any coin grading fine or better shouls show it very clearly...and finding a 1970S cent in less than fine is rarer than finding a small date. Almost all 1970S cents are VF or better.
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Lets just say I wanted to but one of these Small date 1970s, how much would I pay for it.
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EF-AU would run $10-$15, MS60-63 would run $20-$30, MS64 would be $40, MS65 would be $50, MS66 and up would run from $75 and go up.
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Be very careful if you are considering buying a 70S small date on ebay. Most of the auctions, you can't see the coin up close, and in other cases, I see auctions in which is was a clear large date, but seller sold it as a 70S small date "?" with a quesiton mark, or other sellers use the high 7/low 7 criteria. Just be careful. I'm of the mind set that you should only get this coin in certified form from one of the big 4 (PCGS, NGC, ICG, ANACs), unless you can see the raw coin up close and know exactly what to look for. Difference is face value for the large date versus more than 1000X face value for the small date. |
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Thanks for the info coppercoins , mycrob I will use your advice and buy coins only certified form one of the big 4
Thank you.
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